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Did you have any Elders CO's/DO's that were "Hung up" on certain things????
by karter inwe had an elder that was hung up on mens haircuts he had a real thing about how short mens hair should be and even told one bro off for parting his hair down the middle.. even told one bro to shave off his sideburns.. a c.o who was paronoid about sound always telling the bro in charge off.. .
a d.o who orded the attendants to remove crying babys from assemblys on more than a few occations...hans hubler for those that know him..
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Who are your heroes in life??
by karter insomeone you looked up to some who did something amazing?.
i live in new zealand and 1 of mine is sir edmound hillary,a great yet humble man.. he and tenzing norgay were the 1st to reach the top of mt everest.it went to the grave with both of them who put there foot on top 1st,neather of them reviled that.. he did alot for the sherpa's of napal making sure they were payed well for their work as well as setting up schools there.. he came to my school and gave a speech then walked around the play ground talking to us children,his phone number was in the phone book and he would talk to anyone that rang him partially children doing a project on everest.. the british tryed to say that mallory and irvine may have made it to the top of everest years before,hillarys reply.....they may have but i made it down again.. karter..
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How many child molesters do you personally know of in the J.W's?
by karter inwere are they now and what position are they in.. lets do a running count.. c.o.b.e was interfering with his daughter,d.f,reinstated died in good standing.. branch oveersear multiple young children d.f,reinstated in good standing.. publisher interfeared with small child in the k.h d.f not sure were he is.. publisher sexually abused 3 relatives no action taken in good standing.. current elder raped his sister years ago little action taken was not an elder at the time.. publisher sexualy abused young girl d.f,reinstater now in good standing.. m.s multiple young girls d.f,died trying to get reinstated.. so thats 7.. karter..
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To all Australian Elders,C.O's ect...Be warned!!!
by karter inafter the conviction of arch bishop phillip wilson for concealing sex abuse in the church and cardinal pell"s trial getting underway.. this leaves it wide open for the victims to seek redress.. if you are taken to court expect the wts to through you under a bus and wipe their hands of any blame.. if you think putting your assets in a trust or transfering them into your wife,childrens name...to late any lawyer will argue you only did that to stop any victim seeking redress.. i think the victims will all ready be contemplating their course of action and don't be surprised if court action is not far away.. karter..
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How many people have been woken up by the A.R.C??
by karter ini know of 1 that watched the video and never went back.. i think for some it was a the sum of the total or the "last straw" if you like.. karter..
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My old congregation Auckland New Zealand
by karter inin 1991 we build a 250 seat hall and had 125 publishers so about 175 in attendance and filing fast.. just spoke to someone from my old congregation they now have 50 to 60 publishers and 100 in attendance on a good day.. very few pioneers.. seems this is happening everywhere.. karter..
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Are the J.W's reaching a "Tipping point"?
by karter ini haven't been to a meeting in 15 years but my mother and sister are hard as j.w's.
the brothers they are appointing elders are at best suspect like one guy from my old hall made elder,big time drug used before becoming a j.w his talks are all over the place and would have struggled to make m,s years ago but with at least 60 to 70 % of young ones leaving the pool to pick from is at best reduced.. 2 other recent elders both young and zero life experience both on benefits one not well at all falls asleep all the time.. the decent,kind elders mostly older and are decent people with alot of life experience are burning out fast as there are so few of them left like 3 per congro of 100 publishers.. then you have the rich elders who wouldn't ever think of inviting some poor older or mis-fit person out to the expensive placers they go to as they couldn't afford to go so they are above the r&f and the r&f get pissed off with them.
then we have the ones who have "put the kingdom 1st" who are now old worn out and barely getting by from welfare cheque to welfare cheque that are saying "the system should have been over many years ago" it's still here and they are struggling everyday.. then there are the pioneers who have a low payed reduced hour job that seem to think anyone who has anything is totally materialistic and looks down on anyone getting a new car buying a house ect.. along with the child abuse issues,the generation change,access to information the the g.b don't want anyone to know ,not to mention the issues around blood.. is there a tipping point coming????
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The story of 2 study's
by karter inin my old congro 2 people started study's at about the same time.. lets call them john and jane.. john started a study with an elder who was related to most of the b.o.e.. jane with my mother a publisher with an unbleaving mate.. they both progressed well to the point of baptism.. johns house was nothing short of a pigsty overgrown grass inside filthy ect.. janes was not alot better.. when they both wanted to bet baptised jane was held back becouse of the state she kept her house but john was aloud to get baptised.. when the elders told jane this she she stopped her study and went to another religion and lived happly ever after.. the diffrence bettween john and jane appart from he studyed with and elder related to most of the b.o.e........ jane was blind!!.
more to this story.. john quickly moved along with the j.w's doing mic's sound ect and eventually married a sister.. john had 2 children from a previous relationship his son lived with him but he said he never saw his daughter becouse his ex had poisoned her against him.. the son became a j.w and was a real nice guy eventuly getting married to a nice sister and settling down ,both are good j.w's.
to this day.. john however turned out to be a wife beating s.o.a.b they had a child and she was pregnant with number 2 when the police were called on him for beating her up and he was arrested.. the police locked him up for the nite and took him to court the next day were he was found guilty of beating her up.. this was all kept very quite and the elders never took any action against john.. as any court records are open to the public you would think he would at least be "publicly reproved"....nothing!!..
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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?
by karter inone word for it.....apostate!
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How much in total do you think the W.T.S has payed out in child abuse cases??
by karter inthey have settled a lot out of court with gagging orders both ways so we will never know how much was payed out there.but some have been made public.
any ideas how much in total?.
karter