Serious Terrorist Attacks in PARIS, FRANCE

by nicolaou 325 Replies latest members politics

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    As a former Jehovah's Witness who was taught since childhood to see the world from a "them and us" point of view and was told to wait on Jehovah to solve our problems, It was heartening to hear that people in Paris were sending out "Tweets" offering stranded strangers cups of tea and places to stay in their own homes. I love how generous people are and how quickly individuals will step up to help. I'm glad there were others who taught their kids to see the good in humanity rather than utterly broken and unsalvageable.


  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Because they want to initiate conflict and bad feeling and stir up sentiment against the people fleeing - these are the moderates who didn't want to live under the Sharia ISIS regime - this is a good point, but I feel uneasy trusting that ISIS are lying. I'd feel more confident if the border agencies had a reliable system in place for tracking jihadis and turning them away.

    I simply don't understand why the only thing that happens to them is they get followed around for a bit until it becomes too much effort. They were non-military combatants. Make it a crime to go to a war-zone unless you are an official soldier or a registered aid worker - me, too.

    Like the conversation I was having with username/scotsman and I was having to justify my opinion that all Muslims that make hijra to Islamic State should be banned from ever returning!

    I mean, a jihadi travels to Islamic State. He indulges in a little light beheading, then it all gets a bit boring. So, no prob, Bob, he can just return to London, Manchester or Birmingham and fit straight back into Western society - WTF?! I would not want a returning jihadi living next to me, nor would I want to work alongside a person like that.

    I'm sure you and every other sane person would agree.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    It is no coincidence that these coordinated attacks targeted restaurants, bars, a major sporting event and a music concert.

    These are precisely the venues that represent Western values despised by fundamentalist Islam. Jihadists have been encouraged by radicals to target these sorts of locations for years.

    Research Abu Musab al-Suri and the ideas presented in his 1600-page book, The Call to Global Islamic Resistance.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    I don't know why people keep on saying the Islamic religion is the core heart of the problem ?

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    This is sad and infuriating all at once. Again, France had been attacked. The Charlie Hebdo shooting happened back on Jan 7, 2015.

    The key to getting the upper hand on ISIS is to remove their established caliphate. We must not back off from this.

  • kaik
    kaik

    Daniel1555, you are obviously brainwashed.

    Go and talk to them. Get to know them. Do some refugee volunteer work, even if it is just to teach them your language or to spend some time with them.

    So, you are one of these retards who stands at the train station with welcome sign? Or you braking a law by bringing illegal refugees across borders? I have been in Muslim countries and I dealt with them. Do you know, Daniel1555, that there is more Muslims in Europe in its eastern half than western, and that the largest Muslim city outside Istanbul is Moscow? Obviously not! Pot-smoking is for liberal, aging hippes.

    Not too long ago, people of the eastern European countries were fleeing their countries as refugees.

    How many of them were implementing one party, communist rule in Western Europe? How many Westerners were killed by Poles? Do I should remain you, how many political refugees from Nazi Germany accepted Czechoslovakia prior 1939? Do you know that Thomas Mann got Czechoslovak citizenship as a refugee prior Nazi takeover of Prague? There were thousands of them like him. Or it is something you citizens of western, pre-Islamic Europe are refusing to acknowledge?

    Obviously, Paris yesterday was not enough for you to acknowledge a problem Western Europe has with Islamists. You will never learn, and I hope, Americans will not rescue you for the third time from European mistakes.

  • bohm
    bohm
    freemindfade: Bohm if you can so easily overlook the obvious issues with the religion if Islam you may as well "return to jehovah".

    please tell me what issues of islam i have overlooked on this thread. I have provided nothing but factual information and I find the allegations in your post to be both absurd and insulting.

    I am simply pointing out that I find national polls more informative on the general beliefs of muslims than your interaction with your neighbours, this is not supporting islam.

  • cofty
    cofty

    The railway bridge in my hometown has been turned red white and blue this evening.


  • Simon
    Simon
    I am simply pointing out that I find national polls more informative on the general beliefs of muslims than your interaction with your neighbours, this is not supporting islam.

    Your argument then is that a large carefully conducted poll is somehow unrepresentative and we are better off going off a sample size of 1?

  • cofty
    cofty

    In case anybody is still in doubt about the motive for yesterday's atrocities here it is straight from the horse's mouth...

    Islamic State
    France

    Urgent: Statement about the Blessed Paris Invasion on the French Crusaders

    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

    The Almighty said: “And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But Allah's (Torment) reached them from a place whereof they expected it not, and He cast terror into their hearts so that they destroyed their own dwellings with their own hands and the hands of the believers. Then take admonition, O you with eyes (to see).” [Al-Hashr: 2]

    In a blessed attack for which Allah facilitated the causes for success, a faithful group of the soldiers of the Caliphate, may Allah dignify it and make it victorious, launched out, targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity, the carrier of the banner of the Cross in Europe, Paris… Youths who divorced the world and went to their enemy seeking to be killed in the cause of Allah, in support of His religion and His Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and his charges, and to put the nose of His enemies in the ground. So they were honest with Allah, we consider them thusly, and Allah conquered through their hands and cast in the hearts of the Crusaders horror in the middle of their land, where eight brothers wrapped in explosive belts and armed with machine rifles, targeted sites that were accurately chosen in the heart of the capital of France, including the Stade de France during the match between the Crusader German and French teams, where the fool of France, Francois Hollande, was present.

    [They also targeted] the Bataclan Conference Center, where hundreds of apostates had gathered in a profligate prostitution party, and other areas in the 10th and 11th and 18th [arrondissements] and in a coordinated fashion. So Paris shook under their feet, and its streets were tight upon them, and the result of the attacks was the death of no less than 100 Crusaders and the wounding of more than those, and unto Allah is all praise and gratitude.

    Allah had granted our brothers their wish and gave them what they loved, for they detonated their belts in the gatherings of the disbelievers after running out of ammunition, we ask Allah to accept them among the martyrs and make us follow them.

    Let France and those who walk in its path know that they will remain on the top of the list of targets of the Islamic State, and that the smell of death will never leave their noses as long as they lead the convoy of the Crusader campaign, and dare to curse our Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and are proud of fighting Islam in France and striking the Muslims in the land of the Caliphate with their planes, which did not help them at all in the streets of Paris and its rotten alleys. This attack is the first of the storm and a warning to those who wish to learn.

    Allah is Great

    “But honor, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad), and to the believers, but the hypocrites know not.” [From Al-Munafiqun: 8]

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