Flat earth vs round earth
Thomas Jefferson has already answered:
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
The four corners of the earth could refer to the four points of the compass from wherever you are standing .
North,East,West and South
And that should be good news for anybody.
Wow can we refrain from the personal attacks and maybe try doing a little research ourselves? Looking at you JP1692.
No outrageous claims, simply some you have not considered before, and that's ok.
I have led you to the water but I can't make you drink. The best evidence is that which you have found on your own, that's why I said:
This is simply and easily proven if you take the time to examine official imagery and have a critical eye and open mind to see what your eyes are telling you.
flat earth, view of a small world by small minds-- MrRoboto:
sorry if you took that personally, but a creature that thinks it can deduce the shape of the earth by looking horizontally at a small area probably is limited in size in every way. obviously does not fit your description.
But refute please the geometry of an increasing distance from horizon to horizon with increasing heights of observation, when on a flat earth that distance remains constant, because "on a clear day you can see forever". It was balls all the way back to the beginning (almost), when even the universe was a smaller 4D "globe"
Gravity would not permit a plane, or even a level spot of the sizeof our home,-- made mostly of molten, liquid , low tensile strength materials to persist. The visiting elongated asteroid Oumuamua might be the limit. but think Roche limit, shearing forces. ps.
shearing forces that must have occurred when the rotation of the earth was stopped in Joshua's day.or: Maybe it was easier to stop the tilting of the flat earth than the rotation of the globe? Miracles made easier?
Maybe you forgot that I mentioned repeatedly that I am not a flat earther?
I didn't take that specific statement personally but it is a personal attack on flat earthers.
on a flat earth that distance remains constant, because "on a clear day you can see forever"
Actually, on a flat plane you cannot "see forever" but your horizon is the same as on a round earth of the size commonly put forward. Complete with increasing height making the horizon farther away. However, when you use high-zoom cameras in real life, it turns out that you can bypass the horizon limitation and view objects that were previously "under the horizon". Experiment trumps theory but again the data is subject to interpretation and again, some see this to mean F.E. and some see mirages as the answer but I say their eyes are still closed. Too many people think it's round vs flat, us vs them when any truth seekers should not get stuck at that point and should be looking at the bigger picture.
I like your 4d small ball idea, probably referring to the big bang?
If so,I have no problem with that but having a 1st cause being something like that, where its almost as though someone flipped a switch to turn the universe on should be an attention getter. If true, then that would say a whole lot more about our universe and earth but I'll leave that to your imagination.
For your persistent low tensile strength molten materials on a flat plane I will simply ask you to look at any swimming pool or lake, on such small scale they would work just fine for what you are talking about since at small scales the earth is for all practical purposes flat, or you could say "flat enough". Once you have seen that, please let me know if gravity has allowed them to exist and persist.
I won't address the miracle statement of yours except to say that you can't prove the motions of the earth without actually going very far away from it and watching it. Or to put it another way, when you measure the movement of the earth, there is no measurable movement. Not rotationally, not orbitally, nothing. And the common man has not the abilities to go far enough away for direct observation of motion, you have to simply trust your governments for that.
I understand some people don't like these ideas but instead of scoffing at them, as a pimi does when "apostates" try to break through their mental wall, how bout we do some research of our own, and not one sided as has been the case thus far.
Or maybe it doesn't matter about size/shape/motion of the earth, it really doesn't matter for most people so lets kick the ego to the curb and stop insulting eachother.
The bible only mentions the motion of the sun, moon and stars.
It says the sun stood still, doesn't it?
In fact, it even says the earth is unmovable.
< what the bible really teaches >
Yeah yeah....Earth is flat, and you know what, there are not stars whatsoever too, those shinning thing at night are little holes in the dome above earth....because outside the dome it is the heavens !
MrRoboto: Wow can we refrain from the personal attacks and maybe try doing a little research ourselves? Looking at you JP1692.
What did I write that was a "personal attack"?
And while we're at it: where's that evidence I asked for to support your outrageous claim that "NASA releases faked imagery from time to time"?
MrRoboto: you can't prove the motions of the earth without actually going very far away from it and watching it
Not true. As I wrote in a previous post, Copernicus, Galileo, Newton and others proved it centuries ago. Have you read anything about their science?
You wrote: "I understand some people don't like these ideas but instead of scoffing at them, ... how bout [sic] we do some research of our own?"
I've done plenty do educate myself. Apparently YOU have not done that. So I again suggest you do.
Here's a brief bio about Copernicus from Stanford University. I suggest you try reading this for starters:
Is the earth flat? No
Did we land on the moon? Now that we can debate.