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Ray Franz Was Wrong
by Farkel ingod rest his soul.
although i never met him personally, he and i did correspond a number of times, and i have numerous friends who have not only met him, but stayed several days with he and cynthia at their home.
if nothing else, ray was kind, non-judging, and generous.
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has this been on the site before? about there never having claimed to be a prophet?
by booby in*** w72 4/1 p. 200 they shall know that a prophet was among them' ***.
yes, the time must come shortly that the nations will have to know that really a "prophet" of jehovah was among them.
actually now more than a million and a half persons are helping that collective or composite "prophet" in his preaching work and well over that number of others are studying the bible with the "prophet" group and its companions..
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Reminder About Copyright
by t33ap80c inlately i've noticed that some have been offering to e-mail the pdf download version of "captives of a concept" to anyone requesting it.. apparently those doing this do not realize this is both unethical and illegal.
see important information about the us copyright law at .
http://www.copyright.gov/for those who have not been able to afford the $7 for the book i have always e-mailed the pdf version to them at no charge.
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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?
by Essan inthere are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.
these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.
what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.
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ThirdWitness Wants To Destroy Captives of a Concept
by t33ap80c ini have had numerous conversations with thirdwitness.
it seems that one of his goals in life is to protect the world from me and my "captives of a concept.".
someone by the name "settingtherecordstraight" has posted many of thirdwitness comments on several webpages, including: .
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Captives of a Concept
by dgp ini'm reading "captives of a concept", by don cameron.
cameron holds that the one thing that keeps jehovah's witnesses prisoners in the watchtower is the idea that they are in "god's organization", and, therefore, the right thing to do, in spite of what one sees, is to stay within it.
cameron also says that those jehovah's witnesses who become convinced that the watchtower is not god's organization eventually leave.
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Ordering a Don Cameron book from Lulu.com
by stichione inhi all.. anyone else purchase a book from lulu.com?
was it a positive or negative experience?.
i ordered captives of a concept by don cameron back in january, and i never received the book.
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Site To Refute Franz And Cameron
by Bangalore ini found this site set up by a loyal jw who wants to refute books like "crisis of conscience" and "captives of a concept".
i thought loyal jw's were not even supposed to read such books.. .
http://settingtherecordstraight.wordpress.com/2010/01/.
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Ray Franz Views of "Information Control" by WT Society Agree with Hassan
by flipper inhaving read ray franz's " crisis of conscience " 3 years ago -before i read steve hassan's 2 books on mind control - my wife and i thought it would be good to re-read ray's " crisis " book again now that we know more about the workings of " cult mind control".
we just finished chapter 2 and i noticed striking similarities i thought i would share.. notice this quote in " crisis of conscience " on pg.
28 & 29 by franz , " thus numerous factors that are relatively common knowledge in many religious organizations are known only vaguely , if at all, by the vast majority of jehovah's witnesses.
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Swine Flu Shot Is Good? Maybe Not
by t33ap80c intake a look.... tp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/special-swine-flu-update.aspx#.
don cameron.