Studying with JWs - Confused, Conflicted ...

by RebelliousSpirit 278 Replies latest members private

  • Seeking Knowledge
    Seeking Knowledge
    That is when she told me I'd never progress if I didn't accept the F&DS thing.

    I think that's the point everyone is trying to make to you. AS long as you question them, and don't just believe them "cuz we said so" then you'll never be one of them. They will treat you with disrespect for even questioning them in the first place. You should just take them at their word.

    Bottom line ... I DON'T FREAKING GET IT!

    I think you are beginning to!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    The FDS thing is easy to understand if the scripture is taken in context. You won't get the JW answer, though. First of all, is the FDS story a parable or a prophecy? A parable is for our instruction. A prophecy is predicting future events. Since the FDS story is a parable, what is the instruction? Treat others above ourselves. Then we will be approved of God. That's it. This parable should not be used to establish an entire CLASS of Christians.

  • RebelliousSpirit
    RebelliousSpirit
    Bottom line ... I DON'T FREAKING GET IT!
    I think you are beginning to!

    I know, I know. I definitely get that much now - I had never thought it through before - that this was what has had me conflicted with the whole thing from the get go. I get that my refusal to blindly accept the F&DS issue is the basic principle by which I cannot just get baptized and committ to being a JW.

    I just want to cry. I feel horrible right now.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Awwww, you can still be an awesome wife. There's gotta be a reason your husband and your mother in law adore you so much. I am betting they find your independent, fighting spirit refreshing and enjoyable. Enjoy being you! After all, God wasn't making a mistake when He made you this way.

  • RebelliousSpirit
    RebelliousSpirit

    My husband says, "Well honestly... im sad that things have fallen apart with your studies and beliefs. I really thought this was working out so well. I understand your hangups... honestly its never troubled me. Im secure in my belief and in who i am. I dont feel threatened. Not anymore. Jehovah expects a lot from us. Its not for everyone. His earthly organization operate in a fashion that rubs ppl the wrong way. Likely because its similar to other organizations that have negative connotations. But I told you, if you chose not to, that wouldnt change my feelings about you. I still love you, and nothing will change that. Understand, for me, the end is coming. I know it. I believe that. Even if you dont. And thinking of not being with you does upset me."

    The whole thing is so upsetting. And I know he's not trying to make it that way for me, not at all. But it is very painful to have this division between us. I don't like it. I don't want it there. It's not fair.

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw
    I just want to cry. I feel horrible right now.

    Imagine being a witness for 20 years and putting all your trust in the FDS and then finding out that the basis for the whole thing is a sham? I was literally shitting blood on a off for weeks I was so sick and upset. I'm glad that you are finding out this stuff now.

    For example: The FDS say they were chosen in 1919 by Jesus who had taken rule in heaven in 1914. IN 1919 THE OFFICIAL TEACHING OF THE WT WAS THAT JESUS HAD TAKEN RULE IN HEAVEN IN 1874 AND THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THIS UNTIL 1929.

    So how could they have been chosen in 1919 for teaching the truth when they were teaching a lie?

    This is ONE of MANY reasons you can easily determine that the FDS are a group of men running a religion much like the Mormons or the Pope - all without devine backing.

  • Seeking Knowledge
    Seeking Knowledge
    I just want to cry. I feel horrible right now

    Why?? Because you wanted to learn more about something before committing yourself?? You want to make sure this is the right move for you?? Don't be!! You did the absolute right thing, you went in with an open mind and you did RESEARCH. No one can make you feel bad for that. You did the right thing. So what if they are ignoring you now or telling you "you'll never get it" If any one of them had as much interest in their own knowledge as you did, they would be doing the same thing. It's best you're seeing the true colors now than later!

    I personally think you are awesome for questioning everything and not just accepting the answers because they said it was so. Stop trying to make everyone around you happy and concentrate on you first. Do what YOU want to do. If they loved you before, they'll love you after all this.

    Good for you!

  • calamityjane
    calamityjane
    But I told you, if you chose not to, that wouldnt change my feelings about you. I still love you, and nothing will change that.

    Take these words to heart. Don't change the person he married in the first place.

    cj

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    A compromise I and my JW honey made is that I am in charge of long-term planning, and he is in charge of short-term. He is much better at remembering to pay the bills on time and making dentist appointments, anyways. I will make sure we retire with a pension. I calmly tell him I am well pepared to face whatever the future brings, and I do expect that we will both reach a ripe old age together. All I have to do to prove myself right is wait. And take care of our pension plan.

  • codeblue
    codeblue

    Hi Rebel: you have a pm!!!

    I am sorry you are feeling like you need to cry. This is a highly emotional situation for you. Cry if you need to, journal your thoughts...that is very therapeutic!!!

    Also, your husband loves you no matter what your religious decision is...He is a GEM!!!

    I sincerely hope the best for you.

    Sending you many hugs,

    CodeBlue

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