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Cain and Abel
by Freedom rocks in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i love this from the atheists book of bible stories.

cain and abel the sacrifices

for some reason, these two boys got it into their heads that god liked gifts.
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Jesus rejected Mosaic concept of God
by Ireneus in
1. watchtower
2. bible
moses formulated his own image of god (in violation of the very essence of exodus 20:4) thus believed god is like humans who feel love is ‘you must do what i want’ [rather than giving others the space in which ‘they can do what they want and still i love them’] and conveyed into the readers this weak image of god who takes revenge/laments for not being loved.

thus ot image of god is someone who is actively involved in the responses of people on earth.. however, jesus conveyed the truth about god when he said god makes provisions for life’s enjoyment equally for all types of people alike (mathew 5:44-47) as he wishes good for all people [benevolence for its own sake] and renews the same in case they are depleted/destroyed (mathew 19:28) with no intervention whatsoever in between.

thus jesus presented an image of god who is not actively involved in the responses of people on earth because there is a guiding mechanism already in place—externally and internally.. external: people can easily choose their course of action looking at the results available in plenty because anyone can see the chain of action in anyone’s case: destiny is the result of habit, and habit is the result of tendency, and tendency is the result of repeated action, and action is the result of thinking and thinking is the result of belief system, and belief system is the result of family, religion, country … into which one is born.
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Anti-witnessing mistake by me !
by Phizzy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a couple of times while i was anti-witnessing i have made a fundamental mistake, which was to try to show the believer that it was neither intellectually nor scientifically necessary for there to be a creator.

the discussion got to this point because i said i was an atheist.. this latest time was talking to a street preacher who was not a j.w, but he did the same thing they do, i.e not really listen to the points i made, tried to rubbish science etc.. i have decided when, (if), this happens again i shall say something along the lines of " whoa there !

you have done a huge leap from talking about your bible god to the matter of a creator, if i concede there was a creator, how can you prove it was your god ?".
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What changes would stabilize JW membership?
by StarryNight9 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've seen many topics about how things are changing or might be changing in jw doctrine/culture.

some have extrapolated how those changes would result in declining jw membership.

i'm curious to know what changes others think would stabilize those numbers.
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Tishri
by Doug Mason in
1. watchtower
2. bible
at this moment, we are in the jewish month of tishri.

it is the first month of the civil calendar and is the 7th month.. research quickly shows its deep religious significance, including solemn feasts such as the day of atonement, gedaliah, etc.:.

https://www.bible-history.com/the-sacred-year-of-israel/the-sacred-year-of-israel_tishri.htm.
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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.
by smiddy3 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .
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Interpretation often takes you away from truth
by Ireneus in
1. watchtower
2. bible
yesterday, my classmate was giving an example from her homeland on how people can give various interpretations which have nothing to do with truth.

though studying in the us, she was closely monitoring what was happening in kerala (a small southern state of india), her birth place.

last month saw unprecedent heavy rains wreaking widespread havoc in this small state with huge population (which is much more than australia’s population).
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Jehovah had a wife the ancient Israelites also worshiped Asherah
by Finkelstein in
1. watchtower
2. bible
recent archeological discoveries have found that the ancient israelites were not exactly monotheistic to yahweh, apparently the israelites also worshiped a god which was seen as yahweh's wife asherah.

small carved sculptures have been found in places of worship and homesteads to support these findings.asherah's connection to yahweh, according to francesca stavrakopoulou, is spelled out in the bible and an 8th-century b.c.

inscription on pottery found in the sinai desert at a site called kuntillet ajrud.
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Holy Spirit
by Sergey Antonov in
1. watchtower
2. bible
jehovah's witnesses say that the holy spirit is inanimate.

but how then can you sin against the holy spirit, if he is not alive ?!

🤔 then it is more correct to say that it is not against the holy spirit, but against god..
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Revelation 14:4
by Sergey Antonov in
1. watchtower
2. bible
it turns out that on the basis of the book of revelation 14:4 the anointed ones have to be virgins?

how does the governing body explain this?.