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  Favorite Quotes

  by t33ap80c in

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  2. friends

  i got the following quote from ros over at beacon.... "you cannot change someone's mind by proving that they are wrong.".

  don cameron.

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  To all lurking JW elders

  by Mickey mouse in

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  2. friends

  come on in, the water's fine.

  you may even realise you have close friends and family here.

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  Introduction

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  before i begin my introductory post, i would like to mention that a number of my initial comments here may be viewed by several of you as watchtower apologist or as sympathetic to the views of the jehovahs witnesses.

  the last thing i want to do is incite a flame war regarding my legitimacy or intentions in joining this forum.

  mostly, i would describe myself as on the fence.

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  1975 yearbook pdf?

  by familycomesfirst4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm looking to see if anyone has, or can point me in the direction of, a full pdf scan of the 1975 year book?

  i've searched to no avail.

  i've also looked at websites wtarchives and watchtowerdocuments, but i couldn't find anything.. i'm looking to support and show many of the great references leolaia gave in his paper on jw's and the cross.. .

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  A letter about blood fractions from the WT Society

  by ldrnomo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  about 4 years ago i sent a letter to the watchtower society asking them why taking blood fractions was a conscience matter and taking components of blood was a removal matter.. if i can figure out how to post the pdf of their reply i will post it here.

  i was removed as an elder soon after receiving their letter the co we had at the time had a copy of my letter to them and also the letter they sent to me.

  any suggestions on how i can post the letter would be appreciated.. .

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  Why Is Toasting Wrong? Why Can't You Stand For The National Anthem?...

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why can you stand for the pledge of allegiance?.

  why is "whole" blood bad but "blood fractions" permissable?.

  why is eating a bird on thanksgiving day a sin?.

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  Song: 'The Bible--A Priceless Treasure', then concluding prayer

  by sd-7 in

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  2. friends

  brings faithful slaves and popes to humankind.. its meaning's subject to interpretations.

  that can at times truly screw with your mind.. this often-misused book is called the bible--.

  'twas written long ago and then compiled.

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  Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.

  even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.

  here are the exact words:.

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  Article - Blood Refusal by Pregnant Women "a 65-fold increased risk of death"

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this article gives a frank assessment of the risks, see paragraph 2 where he says that they place themselves in "exceptional jeopardy" -.

  " with obstetric hemorrhage being the second-leading cause of maternal mortality in the united states, pregnant jehovah's witnesses who refuse all blood transfusion are in exceptional jeopardy, having a 65-fold increased risk of death.4 it is of paramount importance for clinicians caring for pregnant jehovah's witnesses to understand the relevant ethical and legal constructs and to be well versed in the management and alternatives available to this population.".

  it is a long and technical article which, i hope, will interest those with some medical knowledge but is understandable by anybody..i was particularly interested in the sub heading "informed consent" and the third paragraph discussing the wide variety of answers given on the "health care proxies" it seems that nearly 10% would accept red blood cells, which are strictly forbidden.

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  Blood Processed Beyond “Those Primary Components”

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently my observation is that participants here have rekindled interest in watchtowers blood doctrine.

  this is particularly true of newer participants.

  with this in mind, today i loaded a new article onto my blog that should stun the average witness.

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