confliction
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Had an interesting conversation with mom about shunning...
by confliction inso i was speaking about some "problems" and "confusion" i had about the wtbs, and while speaking the subject of shunning came up.. .
long story short, my mom said that if i were (theoretically) ever to leave,.
she would still speak to me and have me over and do all the normal things .
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Service is mathematically and logically pointless.
by confliction inso, i was thinking today about the point of service, other than the proclamations the king and his kingdom (bs :p ) and i kind of had an epiphany... but i'm sure somebody has already thought of this.
first, for people who never hear the 'truth', or never come to a true accurate understanding of it, they will most likely have odds in favor of them surviving into the paradise earth to get a second chance.
let's say the odds are 99% survival.. .
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Getting my children out
by God_Delusion inmy wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.
for me, she's a lost cause.
i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".
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The real story on why The Watchtower society lost a Kingdom hall in Bonham ,Texas.!
by koolaid-man inwhat happened in bonham, texas?
: the body of elders and the majority of the congregation decided to leave the watch tower organization.
and with that, they took the kingdom hall.
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Welcome SweetBabyCheezits
by yknot insweetbabycheezits...... i sent you a 'welcome pm'.......click on the envelop next to your username to access your pms.
if you get the error message in trying to open the pm, hit the back button and reclick on pm title!.
i see you joined a month ago....... i am glad you decided to start posting finally!.
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A beginner's thanks...
by confliction ini know i only posted on the board 8 days ago- a little over a week.. at the beginning of this week, i went from hopeless and depressed, feeling like i had no way out.. .
but throughout the course of 8 days, i have been shown kindness that i haven't seen in years.. i have been reached out to in ways i didn't even know was possible.. in a little over 8 days, i went from feeling alone in a dark abyss of a world, to having an entire support group, that i know cares about me and understands me and exactly how i think and feel.. in one week, i have mustered up the courage to speak up to a friend who i have known for half my life, but was too afrait to tell about my doubts.. i have come to realize that, he, too is planning to leave this organization- never telling me because of fear i would reject him- and likewise for me.. i just wanted to notify all who have helped, that you will not be forgotten- i would have never imagined this much support when i first submitted my account information one month ago, unsure about my entire life.. .
i don't know how else to put this, so i will put it rather frankly:.
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I feel so alone within Jw's
by XPeterX inwhy won't any jw call me?i always call them and they avoid me or meet me only for study and meetings.they won't even start a conversation with me on msn!i feel somewhat uncomfortable within jw 'friends'.i have prayed a lot about this all of my adolescent years and still no response.did this happen to you too?.
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Recomend movies for ex JWs?
by highdose ini would be interested, these might be inspiring movies or maybe movies that we were never allowed to watch as jws?.
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Is it even possible to prove the existence of free will? Certainly it is assumed, but that hardly presents a 'proof'.
by gubberningbody inwithout "free will" , there can be no evil, if by evil we mean an entity has the ability to undertand what good is, and then freely chooses its opposite.. that so, then what?.