Topics Started by wobble
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Who will say this at a Meeting?
by wobble inwhen i was still going i used to answer and put in stuff to make people think,e.g at the bs with the rev.
book i mentioned about the un thing.. i notice that coming up is a serv.
meeting item about using "reasoning from the scriptures" .
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When SHOULD you have "woken up" ?
by wobble ini can look back to a number of occasions when if i had at the time not left my braincells at home on charge, i should have "woken up" and walked from the wtbs.. one such was 15 or 20 yers ago we had a washtowel on daniels prophecy with the really wacky explanations of the 1260 days and 2300 days etc.
i had about 12 questions on this,like what on earth happened on the supposed finish date that marked the fulfillment of a great prophecy,i also had this thing that showed the 2520 years to be crap,i gave the list of questions to 7 or 8 elders,and none of them gave me a decent answer!.
one kindly elder,who has since faded,warned me to be carefull who i showed my questions to,and hinted that he felt it was all suspect too.. what a big banana i was not to wake up then!.
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Why are JW's afraid of dear old Ray?
by wobble inno active dub will read "crisis of conscience" by ray franz because it is "apostate".
now if it is truly apostate,in the sense of being scripturally wrong then the wt has had 20 years or more to expose it,same as if it is factually wrong.. if it is neither, then the wt has had 20 or so years to put their house in order,so reading it now,dubs should say "oh yea we've changed that,so no worries".
so why can't they read it now?.
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Scholarly support for 607bce ?
by wobble ini mentioned to a bro.
who is supposed to be answering some of my "concerns" with wt teaching that all the non-witness refs.i have seen to the fall of jerusalem place it twenty years later at 587-586 bce.. he maintains that some scholars support 607. does anyone know of a reliable scholar ,who is a recognised expert in this period,who does support 607 ?.
i am well aware that it makes no difference,as the bible nowhere gives us 2520 years,but i am fed up with his assertions and would like to blow this one out of the water so i can ask him to please check his facts.. only help if you really have time ,it's not life or death.. many thanks.
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Extent of Judicial Comms power ?
by wobble inmy question is,because i have always thought that the extent of their power was in a geographic sense, their "parish" or territory, i imagined that if i moved congo.
"officially ",i.e said i am going to such and such a hall, and then never showed up,would either congo.
have any power over me,even if i had not moved home from the original congo's territory ?.
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Great Christmas Beer!
by wobble inevery year englands oldest brewer,shepherd neame based in faversham,kent, brews a special christmas ale.
every year it is different by a big margin from the last,they are all good though... this years is great, a roaring 7% abv and great taste,as my good lady remarked "it's so christmassy you can taste the tinsel !".
if you can get hold of some wherever you are you wont be disappointed.. whatever,have a pissy chrissy!
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Paradise Pulped
by wobble indear all,.
this may have been answered before,but a quick search threw nothing up,my question is,why were congregations,some years ago, asked to collect in from all jw's and send back ,along with library copies,all editions of the book "from paradise lost to paradise regained" ( pub.1958) ?.
what was so embarassing in this book that they wanted to pulp the lot???.
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Has the WTBS ever explained the trinity?
by wobble inif i were going to comment on a deep philosophical doctrine, i would first outline what that doctrine was,has the wtbs ever dne this properly with the trinity?
from memory they have only ever reasoned at the level"one plus one plus one = 3, not one" type of argument,and odd references to trinities in pagandom.. surely a college education would be of benefit to them so they know how to present a thesis?.
love.
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The"smelly stuff "hits the fan
by wobble inthurs @ 4 p,m bst (british summer time) the p.o ,or should i say now de-moted co-ordinator(i wonder if he knows?
) and a mincer are coming to encourage me.this is the official heavy visit i reckon.
i havn't been to a meeting since about april this year and have been inactive since a year before that.. i do not want to be d'f'd or to disassociate as i have all my family still in,my dear old mum(nearly ninety,in da troof sixty years) right down to great nephews and nieces etc.
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Why choose Jehovah's way?
by wobble inwe have had six thousand years or so of satans rule.and yea he has cocked up big time,but what have we got to compare it with?
we are supposed to choose jehovah's way but we have only "seen" a bit of that in the garden of eden and that didn't go too well,so how do we compare???.
love.