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  Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

  suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

  james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

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  Yeah, when I was a JW I was told I couldn't offer my services in business like Toes Up said to " false religion " with any repairs or whatever to their church as it would be contributing to " Babylon the Great " - yet WT leaders can O.K. selling a property for 2 million $$$$ and not see their own hypocrisy. Bunch of bastards. Do as I say - not as I do
  
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  My Lawyers Letter To The Elders

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of you that asked, below is a copy of my solicitors letter to the elders in my old congregation.

  he sent a similar one directly to bethel and a medical directive to my daughters gp to go on her medical records that i have already given permission for her to have a blood transfusion should she need one:.

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  Very well done Pale Emperor. Protect that daughter of yours as much as possible. She's having to attend meetings where crazy, mind controlled humans are. She's lucky to have you as a dad who is looking out for her welfare and safety. Keep up the great work
  
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  Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.

  i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.

  but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.

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  PALE EMPEROR- I'm really happy for you. Isn't it amazing how much stress we lose once we stop attending meetings ? I feel the same way you do- although some of my older generation JW relatives shun me- I've never been happier than I have these last 13 years. Freedom of mind and freedom of conversation is a lost art these days and a priceless possession ! Good luck to you ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Those who are covertly awake.

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok, i work as a taxi driver, and have had a few witnesses in my car already.

  as there is no where to run, and being in a confined space, there is no choice other than to create small talk.

  after all, shunning someone who is essentially responsible for taking said witness home could lead to a rather embarrassing outcome!

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  THISISME 1972- Very interesting experience- thanks for sharing ! I bet there are a lot more awakened and enlightened covert JW's out there than we realize. It's just that they are SO controlled through fear and guilt by the WT organization and scared shitless about getting exposed to still in JW family- that these people would be hard to detect. Hopefully we will get more glimpses of these covert JW's as more and more negative news comes out about WT child abuse and other injustices being committed by WT leaders. Peace out, mr. Flipper
  
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  Hello

  by TheAceInhibitor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking here for a while, but i figured i should say hello and introduce myself.

  i haven't been attending the meetings for a couple months now and i'm a graduate pharmacist.

  i look forward to getting to know people.

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  Welcome to the board Ace Inhibitor ! Nice to have you here. Welcome to freedom of mind and expression . You are among friends. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
  
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  Convicted Child Rapist Proselytizing. Is the Community Aware? Is the Community Safe?

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wow, this is awesome.

  this really shows the jw passiveness towards child sex abusers.

  there needs to be more of this exposing this!.

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  Considering the reports about WT child abuse in England being hidden by the WT Society- this is an important you tube to bump up
  
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  The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  " This is a time for apologies, not for appeals. " Truer words have never been spoken- and yet- WT Society WILL continue to dig in their heels refusing to disclose their child sex abuse policies or release any information concerning WHO the child abusers are. It's because it goes up to the upper reaches of the organizations leaders. Has to be a big part of this. We know about the Greenlee's & Chitty's of the past who were high up WT names guilty of sex abuse - rumors about Jaracz- it really makes you wonder just WHO WT Society leaders are trying to protect right now. OR- As Orphan Crow mentioned what OTHER entities are being served or protected by hiding this information regarding sex crimes ? There's a lot of $$$$$ to lose and a lot of $$$$$ to pay out once this info gets into the courts.

  And still- the GB and WT leaders remain arrogant and stubborn to cooperate ! This will start happening in all countries as it seems WT leaders are keeping this same tactic of hiding and avoiding giving out information in Australia, England, the United States .......... everywhere. So as someone mentioned WT leaders will continue in desperation to " play the persecution card " like in the " Bunker " videos trying to deceive and convince rank & file JW's that " we are being persecuted unjustly for righteousness sake like Jesus. " Let's hope that more and more JW's start seeing this for what it is - a criminal organization with criminal leaders protecting and aiding and abetting felony child molesters who rape innocent children. WT lies and deception in the media are getting tired to listen to. Let more exposure of these crimes happen and let us all do what we can to save children and expose this corrupt organization for what it is- criminal
  
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  Hidden message in JW bunker video?

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.

  he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.

  how it is being played at all the conventions.

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  DUNEDAIN- Great thread, I agree completely. What the GB is doing with this " Bunker " video is psychologically and emotionally abusive to JW's. It's complete coercion and fear mongering mind control tactics being used . I've said many times that the JW organization is a criminal organization being run by criminals. Now they are making criminal videos
  
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  Any regrets whilst you were in the Org

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the biggest regret i have is of 'shunning' persons who were disfellowshipped and for 'marking' ones deemed as bad association.. there's no way i can approach these people to ask them for forgiveness as i've emigrated to another country however, by this post i'd like it to be known..

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  " Any Regrets Whilst you were in the org " ?

  Yeah- The fact that I was in it for so long. And the fact that my parents got in it 8 years before I was even born. Sucks even more. Peace out, mr. Flipper
  
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  I've had enough..

  by raven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?

  i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?

  quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!

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  RAVEN- Sent you a PM with my views. Was out of town working, sorry for not seeing this until tonight . My PM typing from the keyboard was working better than on the thread for some strange reason. So please check your PMs . Thanks, Peace out, Mr. Flipper