wozadummy
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Come on Adelaidians ,how many of us is there?
by wozadummy infess up maybe we can have one of those marvellous meetings like others seem to enjoy?
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30 years later I've grown a beard again
by wozadummy inthis is one thing that bugged me about "the lie" ,when they came down hard on men who had grown facial hair in the 8o's ( and womens adornment,clothes etc).
a ms at the time had a beard and grizzled about shaving it off but did after the talk at the assembly, he's an elder now but i wonder whether he chafes a bit at the taking away of ones personal freedom to grow something that god gave us men.. i never grew one when a jw for i was a drone i guess ,but with alot of small things over the years this did irritate me and seemed just a way the gov body controlled our lives by taking away a natural thing in life .it's not like men would have beaded,braided or let it grow to look like a feral and be unclean and untidy.. and we have paul saying in 1 cor 10 that he became all things to others to gain them to christ - well what about beards ?
is there anything more natural?
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Australian Bethel Visit - I have to get this off my chest
by wozadummy ini was baptized in adelaide south australia in 1983 and around this time my first wife and i , along with our small children decided to go to the bethel in sydney new south wales as part of our holiday one summer.
we camped along the way as we travelled the coast road from adelaide and had a really interesting time and when we got to sydney we decided to stay at a caravan camping ground right near bethel ,so we did not have to travell far the next day for our visit there.. when we pulled in to the park and went to register at the office the two people in charge seemed to be very strained and distant when we spoke to them .we setup our tent and unpacked to settle in for dinner and on the way to the shower block i spoke to someone there for a few minutes and remarked that the people who ran this park did'nt seem too freindly.
he then pointed out why, that day a man had killed one of his family and everyone felt nervous and upset because of this .. of course i jumped into witness mode as i was full of "the spirit" not being long baptised ,but just got a blank stare and i knew i should not persue this any more - i feel so stupid now but i'm sure some here can relate to this blind faith enthusiasm as a chance to witness to the great god of the printing presses and think we can help heal all the troubles of the world!.
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Just had a visit by r&f - kept it to this one issue -Pedophilia
by wozadummy inwe had a newly married couple visit door to door ,new to the area and did'nt know us ,so i thought i would use the same wts tactic of trying to keep the converstion from straying .. the topic i chose was pedophilia in the wts and how the mishandling of that issue by them was the reason we left and why my wife is da'd.. i commended them for trying to be christian in their youth but then began my points on the different ways the society handles pedophilia and the different ways that people are damaged within by their cruel perpetrators and then the way the society rejects these broken people.. first response "well it's a problem but how many of these so-called victims are lying when actually nothing happened?!!!".
my response " do have hard evidence to back up what you are suggesting?
did you know it is actually rare that this happens according to experts medical testimony?".
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Prince and Lindsay Lohan Partying?
by wozadummy injust finished reading an article in the morning newspaper about lindsay lohan cheking herself into the wonderland centre for drug and alchohol rehab.. it is sad to see such a beautiful young person getting to need such services with so much of her life ahead.. but the part of the report that made me sit up and think was this, i quote........ "ms lohan was in hospital on january 3 for appendicitis but was seen out partying a couple of hours after she was discharged.. since, she has been seen out almost every night and on monday she attended prince's post golden-globes bash at the beverley wilshire hotel.
a fellow party goer said she obviously was the worse for wear.".
well i'm spewing over this and here are my questions then....... if prince is a jw what the hell is he doing organising a large function without the elders approval?.
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Violence at Bethel
by wozadummy inhas there ever been assaults on a bethel or attacks at people within a bethel?.
with so many people hurt by the wts and that eventually leads to anger ,has anyone used violence to pay back the hurt?.
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Anyone thought of this?
by wozadummy inwhen one of the 144k dies they are spoken of , especially in jw literature ,as having finished their earthly course.
why don't they say they've gone to heaven?
could it be that they don't want to commit to saying this in case it is later found that the person has committed a serious sin they did'nt confess to while alive?
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Hope for uz apostates
by wozadummy insince the wts speaks so beamingly about ,and quotes never endingly solomons writings, we should consider it possible that ,since solomon died apparently as an apostate that perhaps ray franz and we too may get everlasting life and he may even be quoted one day.
this would be consistant would'nt it?
what say ye?
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Inconsistency of 2 Witness rule
by wozadummy ini want to put this out for comment and also direct this to lurker jw's as something to think about.
witnesses have the 2 witness rule to prove whether a jw pedophile,molester,drunkard beater etc is guilty or not.
this protects the perpetrator by the perp simply saying to themself that they have sought gods forgiveness personally ,so they reason in their minds it's ok to lie about their guilt to the elders and therefore they get off the hook.
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Apology to all
by wozadummy inthis is an apology to all for my recent posts, i did'nt mean to upset anyone .
just coping with leaving the org ,and the past ,and trying to support my wife who, as some know from my prevoius posts has tried to deal with her pedophile elder(past) father for many years now thru the org ,and then being badly treated by them and her large extended family (most are witnesses and are trying to silence her), made me hit rock bottom.
we are now taking action via the police and court system and she is barely coping ,and me being bi-polar does'nt help matters much and i fell into to an unreal state for a while as we don't have much support of any kind.