A farce elder here

by His Excellency 138 Replies latest jw experiences

  • metatron
    metatron

    Don't let the negative talk get you down....

    You are living, hard proof that the Organization is founded on a lie. It claims to be "clean" while you serve as an elder, Witlesses fake their hours, kids download porn and HQ hides child molestation problems.

    You are proof that the 'holy spirit" does jacksh*t in appointing elders.

    metatron

  • Comatose
    Comatose

    Be fair in JCs and drop truth in shepherding calls.

  • His Excellency
    His Excellency

    ahhh, your responses shocked me. this shouldnt be strange to anyone of you, and especially to the folks here. This is the place i expected to be least condemned. There are so many of us out there faking it, we can be found in every organogram, be it elder, bethelite, DC, CO or whaterview, the difference is just the degree to which we act out.

    there is a lot at stake for us, family members, job and et. al, my current landlord and employers are both jws. My apartment is leased for almost free, i pay only the utility bills and nothing more. My job is stable and well paid, i am employed by a brother who serves as an MS from thesame congregation. And the elder status brings so much reckonning and enhances trust, with lots of perks.

    By the way, i have recently made several moves to block my employer's appointment as an elder, because I observe that if we eventually get on the same elder body, my eldership status which I have largely used to my advantage will be of no value to him. I have blocked series of discussions about his eligibility for appointment, the most recent was two weeks ago at the recent C.O visit. He is a wonderful guy though. but I am keeping the status quo for my interest.

    This shouldnt come to anyone by surprise, we live in an unjust world, a lot of things are confusing and way beyond human perception, more confusing when you find yourself trapped in a dangerous grotesque cult filled, some of us would not have opted to be here at all, if we were told the format of life and the wicked world would be designed this way. SO JUDGE NO ONE, LIVE AND LET OTHERS LIVE.

    With regards to the jc, It was a case of fornication, I will handle the matter to the letter. My position is that, the more cruel elders are, the easier it is to awaken people and let them see how dysfunctional the borg is. The more compassion elders manifest, the more difficult it is to make the sheeples see the hideous nature of this cantakerous organization. So my stance is to make life as difficult as possible for whoever crosses the JW line, so as to inspire hatred for the organzation and keep them very far away from the borg. SOmeone may though not see any logic in it, but it has worked on 7 publishers who faced the JC wraughts, and as I speak none of them would want anything to do with a jW, and they have all become " aggressive hyper ferrocious apostates" . If I am eventually caught, I will endeavour to re-connect with them all, dont know when, but time will tell

    please sorry for my english, i am not a native speaker, english is even a third or a fourth language

  • cofty
    cofty

    I passionately disagree with your tactics.

  • His Excellency
    His Excellency

    cofty- that is the way, it works, i have employed the strategy and it has worked again and again. made life difficult for several dubs, followed guidelines to the letter, and so many have either faded and a lot have walked out of jc proceedings.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    My position is that, the more cruel elders are, the easier it is to awaken people and let them see how dysfunctional the borg is

    How would you feel if your harshness resulted in someone harming themselves or even committing suicide?

  • His Excellency
    His Excellency

    cantleave- so far no one has self-destruct, i have my way, i have so far ensured no one is disfellowshipped, although all have voluntary stopped any association with the dubs and over 90% are under reprove. i fully understand the collateral damage of disfellowshipping and would never allow myself to be used by the perverse organisation to enforce the obstinate rule

  • His Excellency
    His Excellency

    My goal is to sabotage the Watchtower from the inside, I am not interested in effecting any change. and I plan to remain for as long as possible. If Raymond Franz did not succeed to bring about any change. Who am I?

  • DJS
    DJS

    Hugh,

    Interesting philosphy. Once I became dis-illusioned as an elder (before the Internet was widely capable of exposing the Borg for what it is) and began to seriously question it and despise the old men in Brooklyn, I became very forgiving of the 'friends' for their transgressions. I looked at Dfed individuals differently and could barely get excited about the run of the mill 'transgressions" in the congregation, which were typically 'fornicaton' of some kind (I hate that word). I'm glad that you have a governor on your actions as it applies to DFing, but I'm surprised your enlightenment re: the Borg and the Dark Tower aren't driving you to be kind and gentle to the sheeple.

  • littlerockguy
    littlerockguy

    HE,

    You're a spineless coward!

    LRG

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