It's the pattern I saw.
Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?
by Monsieur 418 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Ucantnome
Thank you I just wondered if you had misunderstood my posts. I'm not that good at clarity
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Witness My Fury how would two people prepare themselves to see the same apparition in the same place on two different occasions when they had not told each other what they had seen? A specific apparition?....Ucantnome
This could explain how more than one person has the same experience...but I have to say, what I find odd about all these and more in the link provided, is that it seems to be predominantly young girls. And schools.
Seems odd to me...maybe their is something else going on like chemicals in the soil or some other explanation (other than demons). Or do diseases and demons prefer young girls?
Mass hysteria Characteristics
Mass hysteria manifesting as collective symptoms of disease is sometimes referred to as mass psychogenic illness or epidemic hysteria. Mass hysteria typically begins when an individual becomes ill or hysterical during a period of stress. [6] After this initial individual shows symptoms, others begin to manifest similar symptoms, typically nausea, muscle weakness, fits or headache. [7]
[edit] Notable cases
[edit] Dancing Plague of 1518
The Dancing Plague of 1518 was a case of dancing mania that occurred in Strasbourg, Alsace (then part of the Holy Roman Empire) in July 1518. Numerous people took to dancing for days without rest, and, over the period of about one month, some of the people died from heart attack, stroke, or exhaustion. [8]
[edit] Salem Witch Trials (1692-93)
Adolescent girls Abigail Williams, Betty Parris, Ann Putnam, Jr., and Elizabeth Hubbard began to have fits that were described by a minister as "beyond the power of Epileptic Fits or natural disease to effect." [9] The events resulted in the Salem Witch Trials, which resulted in the deaths of 25 citizens of Salem and nearby towns
Blackburn, England (1965)
In October 1965 at a girls' school in Blackburn, several girls complained of dizziness. [15] Some fainted. Within a couple of hours, 85 girls from the school were rushed by ambulance to a nearby hospital after fainting. Symptoms included swooning, moaning, chattering of teeth, hyperpnea, and tetany. [15]
A medical analysis of the event about one year later found that outbreaks began among the 14-year-olds, but that the heaviest incidence moved to the youngest age groups. [15] There was no evidence of pollution of food or air. [15] The younger girls proved more susceptible, but disturbance was more severe and lasted longer in the older girls. [15] Using theEysenck Personality Inventory, those affected had higher scores for extroversion and neuroticism. [15] It was considered that the epidemic was hysterical, that a previous polio epidemic had rendered the population emotionally vulnerable, and that a three-hour parade, producing 20 faints on the day before the first outbreak, had been the specific trigger.
Malaysia (1970s-80s)
Mass hysteria occurred in Malaysia from the 1970s to the 1980s. It affected school-age girls and young women working in factories. The locals have explained this outbreak as "spirits" having possessed the girls and young women
"Strawberries With Sugar virus" (2006)
In May 2006, an outbreak of the so-dubbed " Morangos com Açúcar Virus" (Strawberries With Sugar virus) was reported in Portuguese schools, named after the popular teen girl's show Morangos com Açúcar (Strawberries With Sugar). 300 or more students at 14 schools reported similar symptoms to those experienced by the characters in a then recent episode where a life-threatening virus affected the school depicted in the show. [22] [23] [medical citation needed] Symptoms of the "virus" included rashes, difficulty breathing, and dizziness. The perceived outbreak forced some schools to temporarily close. The Portuguese National Institute for Medical Emergency eventually dismissed the illness as mass hysteria. [22] [23] [medical citation needed]
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sorry about the strange formatting... it was the demonz
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Witness My Fury...that first case in your link seems a lot like the mass hysteria I've listed above.
A bunch of Young nuns...some as young as 17 being possessed by demons. Again...a bunch of women living together. And then going on to witch hunts...
I'm not sure I like this link with hysteria and young women...LOL
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geees...the second case...more nuns living together....
The Loudun possessions was a group of supposed demonic possessions which took place in Loudun , France , in 1634. This case involved the Ursuline nuns of Loudun who were allegedly visited and possessed by demons:
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the third case....more nuns...but this story gets twisty doesn't it?
Sister Madeleine Bavent was 18 years old in the year of 1625; the initial possession victim, she claimed to have been bewitched by Mathurin Picard, the nunnery's director, and Father Thomas Boulle, the vicar at Louviers. Her confession to authorities claimed that the two men had abducted her and taken her to a witches' sabbat. There, she was married to the Devil, whom she called Dagon, and committed sexual acts with him on the altar. Two men were allegedly crucified and disemboweled as these acts took place.
Madeleine's confession prompted the investigation, which found that other nuns were also victims of Picard and Boulle; they, too, had been taken to secret sabbats where sexual intercourse with demons, particularly Dagon, took place. The confessions of these nuns were accompanied by what investigators believed were classic signs of demonic possession: contortions, unnatural body movements, speaking in tongues (glossolalia), obscene insults, blasphemies, and the appearance of unexplainable wounds that vanished without aid.
Beyond mere symptoms of possession, the body of Sister Barbara of St. Michael was said to be possessed by a specific demon named Ancitif.
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FINALLY.....a man! Clearly demonized....LOL
The Rev. Joseph Easterbrook, the Anglican vicar of Temple Church , was summoned on Saturday, 31 May 1778, by Mrs. Sarah Barber, a woman who was travelling in the village of Mendip , Yatton , in the county of Somerset . [7] The woman told the pastor that she came across a man by the name of George Lukins, a tailor and common carrier by profession, [9] who had a strange malady "in which he sang and screamed in various sounds, some of which did not resemble a human voice; and declared, doctors could do him no service." [10] Mrs. Barber, who formerly resided in Yatton, attested to the clergyman that Lukins had an extraordinary good character and attended services of worship , where he received the Church sacraments . [10] However, for the past eighteen years, he had been subject to atypical fits, which Lukins believed resulted from a supernatural slap which knocked him down while he was acting in a Christmas pageant . [10] [11] George Lukins was consequently taken under the care of Dr. Smith, an eminent surgeon of Wrington , among many other physicians, who in vain, tried to help George Lukins; [10] moreover, after his twenty week stay at St George's Hospital , [12] the medical community there pronounced him incurable. [13] Members of the community began to think that Mr. Lukins was bewitched and he himself declared that he himself was possessed by seven demons, who could only be driven out by seven clergymen. [10] [14] Rev. Joseph Easterbook contacted Methodist ministers in connexion with Rev. John Wesley who agreed to pray for George Lukins:
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Yup....must have been the deomonz....
Early life
Gay was born in Lantenay, Ain in 1790, the son of a public notary. He served in the First Empire's military and became a carpenter by trade, settling in Lyon. A very religious man, he desired to become a monk even during his youth. At the age of 46, he applied for entry into the Abbey of La Trappe d'Aiguebelle, and was accepted as a lay brother. He subsequently left the monastery due to a nervous disorder, which some claimed to be demon possession. [1]
[edit] Allegations of demon possession
Friar Burnoud, a former superior of the Missionaries of La Salette, wrote a letter to the then-Bishop of Grenoble in which he wrote that "We have examined Master Gay of Lyons three times, each session lasting from one to two hours. We consider it very probable that this man is possessed by a devil", citing various pieces of evidence including Gay disclosing "several secret things about which he had no means of knowing" and his apparent ability to understand Latin despite never having learned the language. A physician, one Dr. Pictet, expressed the view that Gay enjoyed "perfect health of body and mind" but was also "under the influence of some occult power, which we are naturally unable to detect by medical means" and that "we remain convinced that his extraordinary state can only be attributed to possession", citing as evidence "the fact that during our first interview with M. Gay, that extraordinary thing which speaks through his mouth revealed the inmost secrets of our heart, told us the story of our life from the age of twelve onwards, giving details that are known only to God, our confessor, and ourselves." [1]
Following Pictet's observations, Gay's friends tried to have him readmitted to the Abbey of La Trappe, asking the abbot to perform an exorcism. The abbot refused because he was in the diocese of Valence , while Gay was from the diocese of Lyons. Antoine Gay lived in Lyons for the next few years, at one point being arrested as a lunatic and jailed for three months before being released.
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hmmmm....I'm starting to see a pattern here WMF.....they are all highly religous people....nuns, priests, monks, wanna be priests and monks. I haven't seen any reports from NON believers yet. And they all have comments about them having 'nervous disorders' etc. Like that is irrelevant....
Johann Christoph Blumhardt (1805–1880) was a German Lutheran theologian and the father of Christoph Blumhardt . The elder Blumhardt was educated for the Lutheran ministry and, after several years teaching in a missionary training school, became pastor in Möttlingen, an obscure village of Württemberg, southern Germany. His career was uneventful until, in 1842, he had to deal with one of his parishioners, a young woman, Gottlieben Dittus, who suffered some sort of severe nervous disorder and whose household was visited with strange psychic phenomena. Blumhardt concluded that the case was of a kind with those reported in the New Testament as demon possession. After two months of pastoral care and reverent hesitation, discovering that he had no wisdom or power that could help, he and the girl prayed together: “Lord Jesus, help us. We have watched long enough what the devil does; now we want to see what the Lord Jesus can do.” This prayer-battle continued for almost two years without change—the situation deteriorating, if anything.
Finally came the moment of crisis. At a point when Blumhardt’s prayer and the girl’s trouble were at a pitch, Gottlieben’s sister (who had recently come under demonic attack herself) in a strange voice suddenly uttered the cry, “Jesus Is Victor!” —and it was all over. Gottlieben later became a servant in the Blumhardt household and lived there the rest of her life; but she was never troubled again. Blumhardt understood the voice to be that of the demons who had just been conquered and expelled. There is much in this story at which modern readers inevitably will look askance (as in the story to follow as well); but it must be said that both of the Blumhardts were solid, unflappable characters with nothing of the fanatic about them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Blumhardt
Noooo....nothing fanatical about them....