If English is your first language,
then your writing is indicative of a low IQ. Also, you make many ad hominem attacks; you
have little or no real argument. People who lack the intelligence to argue or
who have no argument use argumentum ad hominem.
What happened. Did
you all, get tired.
So you scold us for what we say, and now you scold us for
not saying more of it. You’re just wasting our time. That’s completely
illogical. Also, both of those sentences are questions and should end with
question marks, not periods, and there should be no comma after “all”.
So the answer to your narcissistic
view is, fight evil with evil, this is the compassion, love and trust you’re
telling people around the world, by you people hear.
So you refer to our “narcissistic view” and you say that we “fight
evil with evil”. These are specific examples of the ad hominem arguments I
referred to above. So you claim our view is narcissistic and we fight evil with
evil, but you offer no specific evidence, no specific case, no specific
argument. Try walking into a courtroom and telling the judge that your opponent
at law is mean or evil or that he’s a lawbreaker. The judge should swiftly kick
you out of court if you don’t get specific.
Also, that sentence is so badly written that I don’t have
the time to even begin to say what all is wrong with it.
I believe someone is
this thread said, where do you get off telling us how to think or live, so my
question would be, where you get off telling people on how to think and live
their lives with all your anger and bitterness.
Again, ad hominem attack - general accusation with no
specifics. In what specific way do we tell people how to think and live their lives?
It is JWs who do that. We’re just warning people about the wrongs of JWdom, and
JWdom is clearly wrong in many ways and has been for decades. JWs have for
decades smugly pointed out the wrongs (or perceived wrongs) of others –
individuals and institutions. Are they the only ones allowed to do that?
You indicate that we have anger and bitterness without explaining why. Argumentum
ad hominem. You use the same tactics my mother does. When she gets into an
argument, she just starts claiming her opponent is bitter or angry or mean or
evil. She has zero specific evidence and lacks the thinking ability to carry on
a reasonable argument.
So, specifically, what is it that justifies your calling us
angry and bitter. Does pointing out the wrongs of JWdom make us angry and
bitter? If so, then are you saying that anyone who points out any kind of wrong
is angry and bitter, or is it only those who point out the wrongs of JWdom who
are angry and bitter? Are people who point out the wrongs of animal abuse angry
and bitter? Are people who point out the injustices in human society angry and
bitter? Are people who didn’t like the latest Transformers movie angry and bitter?
If you’re going to call us angry and bitter, then you should
be specific and articulate why you’re justified in calling us such.
I am actually a person who loves life, who has many
interests. I am fun-loving and kind and caring and reasonable, but I also have a
strong sense of justice. That’s one of the main reasons I speak out against
JWdom. The fact that I do so does not make me in general an angry and bitter
Everything is not
always black and white.
Yes, you’re right; not everything is black and white, but a
lot of things are. Black and white: you have poor writing and arguing skills.
Black and white: JWs have a history that they don’t want known. JWs have been
black and white wrong in their predictions. We have ample specific evidence of
While I find that
knowledge is a great learning tool, so would hatred be. I find similarities between
this site and Muslim extremism
Again, argumentum ad hominem. What, specifically, gives you
the authority to make such a serious statement? You’re crossing a line that you
shouldn’t cross by saying that. The great irony is that it is what we speak
against (JWdom) that is more like extremism. I’m not saying that JWdom compares
to Muslim extremism, but just that between us and JWdom, JWdom is closer to it.
I’ve actually found this site to be fair and balanced and
reasonable. I’ve seen even those with the strongest arguments against JWdom
defend it against unwarranted speculation and wrong accusations.
I do enjoy the lack
of religious knowledge spread around here, it’s very entertaining.
Argumentum ad hominem – yeah, again. So there is a lack of
religious knowledge here??? That’s easy to say. Prove it. What is your
evidence? In a year or two on this site I’ve gained more real religious
knowledge and had my mind stimulated more than I did in four decades or more
with JWdom. So are you a great fountain of knowledge?
I believe someone
else said, read the bible for yourself to get the truth. How ironic, that same
philosophy is taught by the jW’s, so what’s the difference, just asking is.
That philosophy is not taught by JWs. If it is “taught”,
then it’s empty words. JWs don’t read the Bible to get truth; they read the
Bible and look for ways to back up their doctrine while skipping over or
twisting the parts that conflict with it.
Hey maybe someday you
all can start thinking about blowing up the headquarters or knocking off some
JW’s to make you feel better, you know, like the Pharisees did with Jesus.
You’re thinking it or have thought about it. You have become advocates of
hatred, so why not go all the way, you know get it out of your system.
You have gone too far now. How dare you even remotely suggest such a thing.
Simon, I’m formally complaining. This type of speech should
not be allowed here. Please ban this idiot.
There was mention of
Albert Einstein. A theoretical physicist when it accommodates your argument or
just another cocaine addict when it doesn’t. You know, your flip-flop
So you’re accusing us of flip-flops??? I hope you recognize
the irony of that.
So if you’re going to
complain about the WT’s doctrines, then complain about EVERYONES.
Why? You don’t tell us what to do. So a person who complains
about one specific case is required to complain about all cases in the same
category? Where did you get that rule?
policy, unnecessary deaths, harm, People have the right to choose, unless
otherwise forced by man’s laws. Aside from that, what business is it of anyone
here. If it’s a personal experience with a family member or close friend? Then,
that’s up to them. This falls under private debate not public according to the
laws of the land.
I believe that the JW blood doctrine is scripturally wrong
and I have a right to argue my point. JWs advertise their message, including
the blood doctrine, to the world. Are you saying that I have to accept it
without the right to challenge it?
The WT caters to
events that are ongoing at the time
“The WT” caters only to itself. It has wrongly foretold the
future, damaging thousands of lives (including mine), for over a hundred years.
but wait, that’s what
this forum is about, I forgot, to distort the truth
Yep, again, argumentum ad hominem. Be specific. How has the
truth been distorted on this forum? Have JWs not distorted the truth? What about
the wrong use of quotations in the Trinity
brochure and the Creation book?