by oompa 192 Replies latest members private
The next time you catch yourself smiling...remember what it is you are doing. Then do that thing more.Same for the next thing you smile about...do that more.
Then the stuff that makes you sad...when you catch yourself sad, get rid of whatever is doing it.
Of course, there are limitations, but usually just time.
I wish I knew what else to say, I have had my times of being ready to check out. I just care too much about everyone else to leave them.
WLG
Oompa - I have only just read this thread and my heart goes out to you. I have been where you are now with alcohol and depression. Of course they both go hand in hand because of the nature of alcohol so its hard to know which comes first - the alcohol or the depression. While you are still using alcohol any medication you take will not work anyway so you really need to put the drink down first.
I have been in AA recovery for many years now and for myself and it has saved my life and my sanity, as it has done for many others that I know of. There is no doubt that the nature of alcoholism is a very complex one and very insidious in the way that it affects the sufferer as well as the people that love and care about them. Often the people who love us the most actually enable us, without realising it, to continue using alcohol. They do this by looking after us, bailing us out when in trouble, and putting up with abuse etc.
There is a term in AA called "Rock bottom" and most alcoholics have to reach their own rock bottom before they get into recovery. For some this only takes place when all the people that looked after them have had enough and wont do it anymore. It doesn't mean that they dont love you anymore, indeed it is very hard to watch someone you care about destroying themself and not try to stop them.
As with many things you have to take the first step if you really want to get well and get off the cycle that you are on. You are worth it!
Maddie
(((oompa))) glad you made it to another day. Hope you're feeling better.
penny
While Alcoholics can be selfish its not that black and white, its the drink that causes selfishness and there is something that makes people drink ie; not coping, depression etc.
Treat the Cause.
Hope you're feeling better.
Now, about that Jeep. I recently purchased a '90 YJ after 12 years of regretting the sale of my '95. If I'd known they were going to sissify the wranglers in '97 I would have never sold my Sahara. But all is well, as I like my '90 even better. It actually has a carburetor! I insisted on the 4.2 inline 6, though I plan on throwing a Chevy small block in there eventually. How do you like yours?
Message boards are great for sharing opinions and ideas, but serious issues should be left to the professionals.
If I made a post saying that I was puking blood I'm sure others would discuss reasons why or suggest the potential cause, but the bottom line is that the advice should go to a doctor.
If someone is suicidal and an alcoholic then the advice should be the same.
Some here have really big hearts and I applaud them for it, but psychiatrists have one of the highest suicide rates of medical professionals (behind dentists for some reason). They even have training on how to handle failed cases.
Even psychiatrists don't save everyone. If you take it upon yourself to help someone playing with suicidal thoughts, be prepared to deal with the potential that it might not work.
In my time on the internet I find that there are much more people that are after attention than people with real problems. Since I cannot tell who is what I treat them all the same. Tell them to get professional help. It's all you can do without empowering an abuser and taxing your personal emotional reserves.
Hope you get back to work on that Jeep!! It's pretty good therapy.
I put a small block Chevy in an old Willies and that was a lot of fun. Wish I had kept the old rigs that I've had!!
Jimbo
Shit!
When I first saw the thread subject I didn't bother opening it, because I'm a Ford guy and know nothing about Jeeps.
I don't care how someone comes across. If someone talks about suicide I always take him seriously now. 13 years ago I ignored a cry for help from an old friend who repeatedly threatened suicide, whom I had helped many times when he wouldn't let anyone else near him. I didn't return the phone call. I was the good little cultist who no longer associated with "worldly" friends. He shot himself. I live with that every day now.
Oompa, never feel bad about expressing yourself freely. Please get whatever help you need, and never think no one cares. Professional help is good, but it works even better when you know people care about you. Many of us do, but we're not all very good at saying so.
W
KenseiShimonzu First I must say your avatar is indeed the Pope doin a horse from behind. I forgot to look,but you must be a newbie as quoted a crazy canadian...puke puke, gag, gag............oompa
lowcutJeans: I did it *mostly* by myself. My wonderful wife never judged me or chided me when I was self medicating for those several years . . . she was the ONLY anchor I had. If it weren't for that anchor I would have drifted away, never to find shore again.
I have that wife too, but think I need a ballbuster instead....................oompa
