Ex-JW Mother attempts suicide with children and fails! My Family Tragedy

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  • hubert
    hubert

    Mario called me tonight.

    We talked for about 20 minutes. He is out of the hospital and stayed with a friend from his military days, in Springfield, Mass. He is heading home tomorrow morning, and is going to therapy in the afternoon, and he said he will get together with me for supper after that, so I will give you an update tomorrow evening, after we meet.

    I asked him if I could give anyone on the forum your residence address, and he said I can give you people any info I want to about him, because he feels like you are all his family. However, I will still be discreet somewhat, because I don't want to be a nosy body, plus I want to respect conditions of annonimity on the forum. I will send p.m.'s to 3 members, of my choosing. Sorry, I just don't want to have him bombarded with lots of phone calls, and mail at his residence address, but will share this info with some of the members, in case it is needed in the future. I don't want to be the only one that can contact him, if he needs to be contacted again.

    I told him to check his mail at the post office, because forum members are going to send him cards. Use that address for cards, please. I didn't mention anything about money, because I know he'd be upset. He's a very proud man. However, I think it's a good idea to send him whatever you can, because he says he borrowed some money from his sister, to keep up his phone bill. Try to send it annonymous, if you can, so he won't feel obliged to pay everyone back. If you can't, it's okay too, I would think. I will be writing down a few things to ask him, because if I don't, I will probably forget to ask him, like if he has a paypal account, and how can we send in contributions to it.

    He says he doesn't feel like working, or doing anything right now. He is still very down. I mentioned to him about going to Italy for a while, to rest up, and clear his thoughts. I also told him I'm not a therapist, and I don't have all the answers for him, but wish I did. He said he understands, and it's okay. He is thinking about what to do next. He says Italy sounds good, but he doesn't want to let the house go. He sounds a little more positive, but again, I'm not a therapist.

    So, everyone (well, not everyone).. give me some thoughts that I need to ask him, and I'll see if I can bring it up when I see him tomorrow. I sure hope he shows, this time. The last time I was supposed to meet him, he didn't. I'm not good with words, so help me out here, if you can.

    I will give a few members his phone number, and residence address. Please don't be hurt if I don't p.m. you with this info. I will p.m. probably 3 members with this, so in case it's needed again, some of you will have it. These people can tell you if they got it, if they want to. That will be up to them, not me. Thanks, for understanding.

    Now, I have to start my list.

    I just got a good idea. Someone start a new post saying "A MESSAGE TO MARIO", and maybe a few of you can write some good thoughts in it, and I'll print it out and have him read it, or I'll read it to him. What do you think? Because If you put it in THIS post, it will take me all night and 500 papers to print it out. LOL !!

    Not too many, now. Maybe a limit of 15 or 20 people, with 30 words or less each. If there's too much, he won't read all of it. sound like a plan? If anyone has another idea, I'm all ears. I won't print this out until around 3:30 p.m. easternt time, tomorrow, so you have plenty of time to say a few words before that.

    I still want some info in this post, to get ideas on what to say to him. so let's get busy, friends. I'm waiting.... Thanks, guys. (and girls) You are the greatest !!!!!

    Hubert

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    Hi Hubert,

    Thanks once again for you update on Mario. It's reassuring to have someone touch base with him for us.

    I didn't see this post until after I posted on the other one, and thankfully I kept it short. :-)

    I was born and brought up in Springfield MA, and moved here when I was 33. I wonder if we may have friends in common (Mario and Moi) what a surprise to see *that* when you wrote it!

    Thanks again for being there for him.....

    hugs,

    Annie

  • hubert
    hubert

    bttt

  • LoverOfTruth
    LoverOfTruth

    Hubert,

    You might want to follow up with him to make certain he is on track with his Unemployment Benefits. I know he isn't thinking straight and might need someone to help him stay focused.

  • hubert
    hubert

    bttt

  • LDH
    LDH

    Hi Lover,

    I asked him if he had gone to apply for unemployment, he said no because he 'doesn't care.' I did encourage him to apply and get some benefit for a system he has no doubt paid into for years.

    Well of course I sit down for one second and the three year old needs me. I'll be back.

  • hubert
    hubert

    Lisa, I hope your kids are okay now. We have some that are sick on my wife's side of the family, too.

    Update on Mario:

    He called me tonight, and I met him for supper. He had just went to a "workout", which is a good thing. It helps keep him active, and occupied. We had a long chat, and I asked him if he checked his mail today, and he said he was going to tell me that. He said he got 3 letters, with money in them. He also said two of them had cash in with the cards, and no return address or name, so he couldn't return them.

    I told him NOT to return any of them, and that the forum members knew you would want to return them if you knew who sent them, so that's why they sent them anonymously, because they know how proud you are. I also told him that to just accept the money, and don't feel like it's charity, because people on the forum want to help him through this and being so far away, it's the only thing that they can do to help him. So, I said, accept the money, and someday, when you are financially stable and someone needs a hand, you can help them. He seemed grudgingly to accept that. So, I don't know if you have to sign a bank check, or the bank signs it for you, but if they do, that might be a good way to send an anonymous gift to him.

    I forgot to mention about "paypal" !! I will call him tomorrow, and ask him if he still has that account. (I don't know if that can be an anonymous way to give donations, either.)

    "ZEV"... I mentioned your name, and he said he wants to get together with you, too, so I gave him your e-mail address. I'll send you a p.m.

    "SUNSPOT" ... I told him how you lived in Springfield, Mass for 33 years, and he was glad to hear this. He says he used to deliver computer material and set up computers for certain companies in Springfield, and he knows the city well.

    BEBU...LOT... NINA.... I asked him about compensation, and he said he will go this week for unemployment benefits. I tried to encourage him to do this. I think he will finally go and apply, thanks to others telling him, also.

    BEBU.... I gave him the info on "compassionate friends", and he said he knows the place where they meet. By the way, they only meet ONCE a month, on the 2nd Monday of each month, so he missed January. The next one must be February 14th. Someone remind me around that time, and I'll push him to go, if I can. If he wants, I'll go with him for the first meeting.

    Bebu... I'll send you a p.m.

    I let Mario read the post that was started..."A message to Mario". (I forgot who it was, but thanks for starting it for me).

    Some of it was sad for him to read, and made him think a lot about Talia. It's my fault. I should have said to only say positive things of encouragement, and not go into the sad stuff again, but it's okay. You people didn't know what I was trying to do with this info. I should have explained it differently. He was okay with it, anyway, because he sees how everybody is still concerned.

    He did meet with his therapist today, and it went well. I am not a therapist, but I gave him some strong advice. I think he will take it.

    Well, that's it for now. My "report" is in. I asked Mario if I could do this, and he said that I can. He is glad to see that I am keeping you people updated on his progress. He said to say "hi" to all of you, and says that he loves each and everyone of you, and says "Thank you for all your help and support". and that he'll write again soon.

    (Keep the cards and donations coming, friends... He really needs it) Thanks.

    Hubert

  • hubert
    hubert

    bttt

  • gypsywildone
    gypsywildone

    Hubert, does Compassionate Friends have a number listed anywhere? Maybe they have volunteers that will go talk to people & could help in some way.

    Everything donated must be anonymous it would seem. That is probably the only way Mario will accept the help. He could just return Paypal.

    Thanks Hubert, for being there

  • bebu
    bebu

    Thanks so much, hubert, for being such an awesome friend! Thanks for the report.

    bebu

    PS: and the pm!

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