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Witness memory
by Descender inhave any of you had a similar occurrence when you were a witness as this?
i was 18 years old and had taken a trip with my witness buddies to new york.
one of them had been drafted into bethel and we decided to go along to tour the place and visit new york and patterson.
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The easiest to prove?
by Gig inwhat would you say is the most obvious lie the wts taught?
i'm thinking of the simplest and shortest to read and explain, and one that leaves no doubt as to the deception and dishonesty was on purpose...obviously intentional.. one example is where they changed the dimensions of the pyramid to fit their chronological math.
from one edition of their book to the next printing, on the very same page and very same language, but with different numbers.
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More than a mistake: facts and fun
by Gig ina frequent destination for jw's when confronted with some wt history is the safe haven of "yes, we made some mistakes, but we were willing to change.
" of course for them this puts a nice and satisfying postive spin on a conversation going the wrong way: how admirably humble.
the simple question in response would be "if you say the end of the world will come on this date, and it doesn't, how willing do you have to be to change?
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Millions now living may NEVER...
by Gig in...may never see anything like this from the wts.
thank you nathan for completing my previous thread: the power of an apology.
i dunno how to link it but its well worth a read..
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The power of an apology
by Gig ini regret that because i don't have my copy of crisis of conscience here i can't complete this post, but someone with a copy please assist me...ray quoted an apology from the worldwide church of god after the passing of their "leader" herbert armstrong.
it really struck me as courageous, responsible, and ever so appropriate given that herb's teachings often were the same in nature as the wts's.
if memory serves it's on page 271 or 272, if not you'll find only one reference to the worldwide church of god in the index.
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What's with such young "elders"?
by Gig inhow can the wts consider an unmarried man in his mid-twenties qualified to be an elder?
clearly the "theocratic" process of election by the holy spirit is not what's happening.
ever known any (too) young elders?
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Another possibility?
by Gig ini found myself very intrigued reading a recent thread.
i cannot remember the poster but it was also on randy's freeminds site.
it was an ambitious effort to methodically show the wt bias in their wt mag "bible" lessons.
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Please help on quotes
by Gig ini remember reading a wt quote that says something about finding footprints that wander all over and don't seem to be heading in any particular direction...and asks would you follow.
can any of you help me find this one and any/all others where the wt condemns their own course.
those that ridicule false teachings and mistakes/corrections of other religions that they themselves have done.. and secondly, any/all pure lies that are quick and easy for anyone to see.
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A day in the life of the WTS
by Gig instill i try to find a way to talk with my jw friend about the wts.
pretty much every conversation, at least so far, has ended similarly...with my friend falling back on "classic" wt defenses.
one of which i single out today...the insistence that they are the one true religion because they are the only ones who go "house to house".
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why,why,WHY????
by Utopian_Raindrops inok it is 4 am and i have not gone to bed so i wont be checking this thread till way later.
still i have a question.........maybe someone can answer it for me.. .
do so many christians believe that anyone who does not believe as they do will burn in hell?.