You believe that the balance we have in the universe is all by accident? There is no Creator of all we see? The way our bodies work has no Designer? That is your choice. But I feel that even if there are things that we don't feel are quite right in the Bible, God is real and He exists.
ruderedhead
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changed my mind from 8 years ago
by outforever inhi everyone - i am back but under the name of outforever.
i joined in 2005 under madmax - that is when i got dftd!
i then went to church and sort of joined - i then trusted in the "lord" and my eyes were open to all the nonsense that was taught to us - but just could not get passed all the hypocracy in the chruch and still they just like the jw are teaching nonsense - sorry to all the christians on the board, but after a lot of searching and reading and reading - i now believe that there is no god - no god at all.. especailly after reading on this board about the flood, and how the animals were placed.
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In your own words,,,,,,
by label licker inplease tell my thirty-six year old niece what you would tell all your loved ones if they were to go back to the cult because they wanted to see their loved ones again.. she was df'd at sixteen for being a teenager with an anxiety disorder, her dad had walked out on her and her family(2 other sisters) when they were young and never supported them or the mother.
all of them had to live with their grandmother.
after the last child left home, their father has their mother move back in with him.
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ruderedhead
April, you're a young woman yet You have a wonderful life ahead of you if you allow it.. You seem to be drawn to people who are not good to you, whose love is conditional. You are living with a man who goes on vacation with the woman he's seperated from? He's not divorced? That says something about his character, or lack of, right there. He's got it made, honey. He's having sex with both of you.
Your parents & siblings love is conditional, April. You know this religion is not "the truth". Honey, why do you want to be with people who will love you only on their terms? Have you reached out to them, told them you love them? If they rebuff you, telling you they don't want anything to do with you unless you return, is that REAL love? NO. But it is a cult mindset. You were ousted at 16 for being a teenager with an anxiety disorder? That's loving and Christian! Your Father leaves all of you until you are too old for him to have any financial obligation, then returns? Sorry, but he's a hypocritical asshole, and your Mom and sisters are foolish if they are acting like it doesn't matter because he's with the witnesses now.
May I suggest you seek some counseling to find out why you feel you need these people in your life? They treat you poorly, and you allow it. Please consider getting your finances in order, don't let Mr. Player know you are doing it, and one day simply move out, telling him you are simply too good for him. Widen your circle of friends through work, clubs, volunteering. That will help fill the void of your family if they won't have anything to do with you. You obviously have relatives who love you inconditionally, as they care enough to seek help for you here. So you definately have UNCONDITIONAL LOVE FROM FAMILY MEMBERS! Cherish them. All the best to you.
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A sad day for a JW- they lost a study 'cause of me.
by Gojira_101 ina few weeks ago i posted a topic about a deaf woman studying with the jw's.
the deaf preacher from the woman's parents church contacted me to know more about the jw's because the parents were allowing their daughter to study with the jw's because "they are such nice people.
" anyway the deaf preacher contacted me because he knows i just left the jw's last year and he wanted information.. i was more than happy to provide it.
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Upcoming KM!! Why we are not False Prophets!
by DATA-DOG inthis subject is coming up this month in the tms.
i just thought i would start a post for newbies or lurkers.
if you have any scans of the awake inside cover that would be awesome.
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ruderedhead
Thank you for posting this!
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employment question
by XstuckX inhello everyone, this is my first post.
i've been lurking for awhile.
a little background...i've been a jw all my life.
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ruderedhead
Please follow Blondie's advice. Start looking for another job QUIETLY. Something that will improve/expand on your already existing job skills.That is the reason you can give for leaving your present employer. You have a family to support, after all. If you can find something eventually outside of your small town, that would be wonderful.
In the meantime, try and keep quiet about your feelings about the religion. Keep researching, and plan your fade. It may take a while, but if your whole family is in, it's what you must do. Hope all goes well.
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Fading ... Do You Owe Witness Friends An Explanation?
by What Now? ini'm curious about what you all think on this subject.
when my husband and i became irregular about a year ago, and then inactive around 5 months ago, i felt that it would be hypocritical to take advantage of the social side of the witness community if we weren`t going to meetings or in service.
we stopped entertaining (which we did quite regularly - theme parties, card parties, movie nights, big turkey dinners, breakfasts on holidays etc), and i slowly stopped accepting invitations for get togethers, playdates etc.
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You don't owe anyone anything. You gave a truthful explanation to someone who cornered you, and now they are talking about you, and the story is changing as they tell it. Elders wives can be wonderful, or they can be the biggest gossips. I would suggest you text this friend, and others you have heard are talking about you, and tell them, briefly, what you have heard they are saying. Tell them to stop gossiping about you & your family, as it is unscriptural. Do it w/o malice, just matter of fact.
You will find a new social network, it will just take time. All the best to you.
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Being pressured and getting increasingly stressed.
by NBird inhello, i'm a 17 year old born in and i'm done with this religion.
one hundred percent.
i came to the conclusion a year ago that i wanted to leave.
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You have been given some excellent advice here, NBird. I really can't add much, except to tell you to move VERY SLOWLY, & fly under the radar for as long as possible. You need to finish school, and hopefully get some further education, possibly at the community college level. You need your parents support financially right now, so you may have to play the game for just a little longer. You're young, you will survive.The real world can be difficult without proper preparation. And it may avoid major damage to your relationship with your parents as long as you DO NOT get baptised! I love the suggestion of lostgeneration to point out Jesus age at baptism. Is that point even something one could argue? All the best to you, young one. I wish you a successful fade.
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Today is my birthday
by Gojira_101 inwell so far it is a fantastic day!
i know my grandma isn't going to call me like she does every year to say she is happy i was born.
you know the jw form of wishing someone a happy birthday.
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ruderedhead
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! I HOPE IT'S AWESOME!
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First post venting
by Freethinking76 inhello ,i am a jw,been in the "truth " for about 6 years.i have to be very careful because i know the witnesses monitors sites and report to the elders ,i know cause that is what my blood sister does,she spends hours trying to find apostates in the closet.i know stuped.. so this is my situation.i have known about jw almost all my life and heard that only them have the truth,lots of my family are in it.i was the one taking too long to baptize ,i knew it was expected from me.and i always had a need to make ppl like me .so i took the dip.i started to notice that there are lots of jws that belong to little groups.i wanted friendship so bad and at the time had a need o tell ppl about my horrible childhood traumas i guess i was not over it yet,and needed some to lisent since i had drove my spouse nuts already .what happend this ppl pretend to want to be close to me so they can know all my business and then tell everyone at the hall.then you realize uhhh,they never confided their personal stuff to me.is like a game " you can tell me your stuff,but do not expect me to keep it to myself and do not think i will tell you my dirty laundry.a lot of mind games.. so i was alone ,invisible ,i still can't believe i put up with so much !
i can't wright not even half of what i when through.i feel paranoic now.so i came across a youtube video by jwstruggle and blow my mind ,now i can't stop researching,my spouse is not a jw,and is very shock too.so i decided that i want to fade,i guess it won't be so hard since the sis and brothers did not had a close relationship with me.i have kids and i suffer from pts ,anxiety attacks,panick attacks and severe depression.i moved to the next town of my hall,so i have change hall too.i have not been to my new hall,and wanted to know,will the elders in my old hall contact the elders in my new hall just to see if i am attending?..
my spouse told me " i will tell them i am not letting you go" "and "i found out that your liars!
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ruderedhead
Welcome, free!
It sounds as if you have been through quite a bit. Since you are in a new hall, I would suggest simply flying under the radar for now. You have a supportive spouse & your children, so you will still have your family. Don't go to the hall as that may bring out more jw's to "see how you are doing", and if you have caller i.d., simply don't answer the phone when the jw's call. If you don't have caller i.d., let calls go to your answering machine/voicemail when no one else is home to answer (if it's a jw, they are to be told you can't come to the phone). If one comes to the door, it's simply a very bad time for you to talk. They will probably leave you alone after a while if you don't talk against them. You may find your stress and anxiety levels go down after you get over the initial guilt of not going to the hall or associating with the jw's.
If you haven't already, please check out jwfacts.com. That may help to alleviate your guilt as well!
All the best to you on your journey!
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Black or white what Racial Discrimination have you experienced?
by usualusername ini could give you hundreds of experiences but let me kick off with the following.
i boarded a train at 4am heading to an airport a few weeks ago.
in my carriage there were at least 100 people.. .
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ruderedhead
My daughter and I were in the Detroit airport waiting for a flight. She was about 15 at the time. We went into one of the fast food restaurants to get something to eat, and could not get waited on. There were no other customers in the place. Every last employee just stood there and stared at us, and would not respond when I asked to order. Just stared at us. They were all black, my daughter & I are white. She didn't understand what was happening, I didn't see a need to explain it to her. We just went somewhere else. Will this nonsense ever end?