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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

  !.

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  42nd class Gilead Sept 1966

  by lepavoux in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for thaisun vivienne ainsworth, maurice le pavoux, guernsey, channel islands [email protected] drop me a line .

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  42nd class Gilead Sept 1966

  by lepavoux in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello vivienne ainsworth (thaisun).

  you have seen the light the same as me.. did i eat all those chocolates at milton henschal's table or did i give half of them to you?

  i forget now!!.

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  Watchtower's Billion Dollars of Property Cannot Be Sold until Outcome of Conti Appeal

  by Dogpatch in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.

  i am passing this on.

  cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.

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  Question about 607/587

  by drewcoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am not an expert on this issue.

  i have read and re-read information about it, but i guess i am somewhat dense when it comes to this topic.. my question is simple: the watchtower suggests that they believe the bible is the unerring word or god.

  that it must be believed above anything else.

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  Confusing messages at DC

  by Kensho in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay i know everyone has probably already attended the dc and have posted their experiences here, but i just went to fri. and sat.

  session (with a drama although timely for families i thought would never end) and a couple of bizarre things stood out.. very poor attempt at explaining the overlapping gen. new light.

  during the brother's talk he said" there are two phases to the overlapping generations".

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  WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  finally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .

  as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.

  much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.

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  That Magical Number: 2,520

  by Quendi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to relate this experience i had on sunday while renewing ties with an old friend.

  we argued about the meaning of daniel 4 and nebuchadnezzar's "tree dream".

  my friend had insisted this dream told the reader the length of the gentile times.

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  Is the Watchtower stubbornly holding onto the 70 year exile figure within the Old Testament?

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read outlaw's post about how he has watched people make an online career out of debating for and against arguments regarding 607 and 586 being the date of jerusalem's fall.

  he's right that this has happened and it's had the nasty side effect of "mudding up the waters" so-to-speak in regards to anyone wishing to glean wisdom from these debates.. i am not a historian and when posts start getting overtly historical my reading of them seems to slow down and i find myself having to reread posts.. i am going to try to simply state each argument to see if i have put it together (correct me if i am wrong):.

  the watchtower says that they default to the bible's figure of 70 years of jewish exile which is used more than once in the old testament.

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  587 B.C.E vs 607 B.C.E

  by fade_away in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the latest oct. watchtower has an article that seems to be controversial amongst us "apostates.

  " it's a long complicated article with tons of confusing names and dates, but in the end it sums it up and says:.

  "to sum up: the bible clearly states that there was an exile of 70 years.

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