Vanderhoven7
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"Are you In the Truth?"
by Nickolas ini can't remember the last time i was asked that question because it has been many years.
nor do i remember my response to the questioner but it no doubt contributed to not being asked the question since.
are you in the truth?
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Why do I keep digging?
by ranmac init didnt take a lot of independant research, along with a life full of ridiculous experiences in the religion, to realize that the organization and its gb are just another religion focused on control and conformity.
so why do i keep digging into the insanity and contradictions that they're based on.
i think i know why, just want to hear how others feel..
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Is Annihilation of the Unrepentant Wicked Justice?
by Ding inwe all understand the justice argument against hell: the idea that god might decide that a wicked person's sins merit everlasting conscious punishment offends our sense of justice.. do even hitler's sins merit never-ending conscious punishment for all eternity?.
we know that the wtbts takes an annihilationist view of the "everlasting" punishment described by the bible.. they teach that there is no separate "soul" or "spirit" that survives physical death and that the ultimate fate of the unrepentant wicked is annihilation by jehovah.. let's assume for the sake of argument that they are right.. is this justice?.
over the years, the wtbts has flip-flopped on whether or not these wicked people will be resurrected for purposes of judgment or whether they simply will remain dead with no hope of any sort of resurrection.. let's look at various possibilities.
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How do you add to your profile info and replace your graphic
by Vanderhoven7 insomehow i blocked all the wacky generated graphics?
how does get into profile info and add and change stuff?.
vander.
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The Truth stands on its own- WTBS or NO WTBS!
by theMadJW inyes, the wtbs has done much deserving ridicule- yet does far more deserving credit and respect.. but this is not about them, but the truth about god and christ they have made known, by showing it to all in the scriptures.
because of this work, most know that god(s) is not the ultimate sadist bbqing billions in a mythical 'hellfire' anymore, etc!.
this topic is at the request of little bird- is it possible to have a peaceful discussion here- without all the self-righteous psychobabble from so many?.
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Depressed witness going door to door
by I quit! inthis morning i saw a witness mother and her son heading out into service.
from the area they were in i think they were going to be doing some street corner work.
i was stopped at a light when they walked in front of my car.
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They didnt leave because of doctrine-they left BECAUSE OF THEMSELVES!
by Joliette inthis is an actually quote made by a district overseer at a convention in dekalb illinois in august of 2008...yep, no joking, swear on a holy bible...he actually said that.
just thought about the quote and thought i should post it to share it with the fellow 'apostates' (sarcasm)..
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Major Blunders of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses!
by wannabe inthey never would have taken the position of the faithful slave; but they would have taken the position as the house, for that is what the anointed class in the first century, was!
but never would any of the true anointed class, have taken the position as the ones appointed over the house; as does the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
" {matthew 24:23-26} the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will tell you; 'look!
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The Sleeping Spirit Doctrine...Can "You" Survive?
by Cold Steel inmy late grandmother died in terror of having her spirit sleep at death.
just before she died, she was inundated by reading material from my aunt (who's jw).
it made her think of the cold clay in the grave as her destination after death, even if it was temporary.
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For believers, how does God discipline those he loves?
by journey-on inwhen i was a jw, i thought this referred to private reproof, public reproof, or disfellowshipping.
in light of a recent conversation concerning the true meaning of justice and the balance between mercy and judgment, i would like to know what your thoughts are regarding his disciplinary "methods" and heb.
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