Topics Started by Essan
-
50
Jehovah deserves to die - according to his own Law.
by Essan inyup, that's right.. if we apply the principle from god's own law at deuteronomy 22:8, that is.. .
"when you build a new house, you must build a railing around the edge of its flat roof.
that way you will not be considered guilty of murder if someone falls from the roof.
-
7
Best old books for exposing the 1874/1914 fraud?
by Essan ini'm looking for a couple of the society's old books, one just prior to 1914 the other in the 1920's (as late as possible), which would show what the society was actually saying about 1914 in the run up to that year and that they were still promoting 1874 as the year of christ's presence for many years after 1914.. .
basically i'm looking for recommendations for two of their old books which would do the most damage to the modern jw claims about their past and show they could not have fulfilled prophesy or "qualified" for anything back then, as they claim.. .
there must be a couple of books which are really dynamite, choc full of nonsense and failed predictions.
-
32
Most recent Society lies about 1914?
by Essan inas i'm sure we all know, the society has lied repeatedly in the past about what they preached regarding 1914 in the run up to that year, claiming that what was preached was that jesus was to become king in that year and his presence was to begin then etc, when in fact they were preaching that all this had already happened in 1874 and that the end of the world would come in 1914.. .
but does anyone know if they have repeated this lie about what they supposedly preached recently?
when was the last time they claimed this?
-
209
Challenge to DJeggnog Regarding his Lies.
by Essan ini'm disgusted.
so, i'm formally challenging djeggnog to either substantiate or retract his outrageous claim that:.
1. russell made no predictions about 1914.. 2. specifically, russell never predicted christ's "coming" for 1914.
-
4
Important Message from the Governing Body.
by Essan inrepent!
the seventh armageddon is coming!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp8usagdxk8.
-
9
How WT Apologists at JWN inherently break forum rules. :)
by Essan ini noticed the posting guidelines the other day as i was replying to djeggnog, one of our relentless wt apologists (although he's very unapologetic about it :) and i noticed one rule in particular that got me thinking.. seeing as such jw's are representatives of an organization that falsely claims to solely "represent" a pretty important person - god - and they frequently make the claim here that the org.
represents god on earth and that it's teachings are god's teachings - a claim they have been completely unable to substantiate - then i'm fairly sure they must be in breach of rule 7:.
"impersonating or falsely claiming to represent a person or organization".. so, if ever one was looking for a technicality on which to 'disfellowship' any particularly unpleasant and deceptive society worshipping spammers, then maybe posting guideline 7 might be the way to go.
-
40
The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?
by Essan inthere are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.
these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.
what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.
-
8
Rate JW's out of 10 compared to other religions.
by Essan inso most of us here have been jw's or have read enough to have a decent grasp of the religion.
while we were there we were told jw's were the happiest, most righteous, best dressed, most polite, helpful people and our religion the purest and most accurate for of christianity in the world.. most here now would say all that probably wasn't entirely true.
lol.. if you have had exposure to other religions before or since where do you rate jw's overall compared to these religions?
-
34
Inappropriate - Sick - WT & Awake articles over the years.
by Essan ini remember as a kid reading an article - not sure if watchtower or awake - which terrified the life out of me!
i remember thinking at the time "ok, this may be true, but i'm just a kid, i shouldn't be reading this!".
some of the details remain imprinted on my mind decades later.
-
23
UN & NGO - PRO-WT Apologetics is TOP HIT on Google search!
by Essan ini typed in 'watchtower ngo' into google search the other day and was shocked to see that the top result was for a pro-wtbts site called 'jehovahsjudgement'.
i'm very disappointed by this because it means that one of the first sites jw's searching for the truth about the society's involvement with the un are going to come across is this deceitful apologetics page which tries to make it seem like the society affiliating with the un is no big deal and perfectly acceptable!.
this pro-wtbts site is successfully debunked by a response site - http://jehovahsjudgmentexposed.blogspot.com/ - which takes apart their excuses and manipulative deceptions fairly expertly, but still, this site doesn't appear when you do a google search and i had to look really hard to find it.