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33 Essan in
seems to me that we're playing into the society's hands here.. 'apostate' is the most evil and vile word for jw's.
i suspect it's even more of a terrifying trigger word than 'satan' or "demons", for them.. the society gives us that label which they have negatively loaded in order to make it impossible for jw's to hear us or have anything to do with us.
the word is associated with other words like "poison" and "toxic", "disease" and "filth".. so what sense does it make to use it and allow the society to have it's way?.
52 Essan in
i have to hand it to the society.
they understand the power of organization.
they demonstrate that no matter how ridiculous your message and how much the facts don't support your position you can still accomplish a lot if you are organized.
1 Essan in
in the beginning, jehovah organized the universe.
now the earth was disorderly and unproductive and not at all upbuilding.
42 Essan in
...in return for someone else doing the same with your friends or family?.
this is a hypothetical question to see how many would be interested in something like this and if it could work.
(i created another thread about this but the title and op wasn't clear enough.
39 Essan in
could we be doing more brothers and sisters?
i'm sure i'm not alone in wishing that there was more we could do to hasten the demise of the wtbts and to speed up the exodus of it's members.
and i'm sure i'm not alone in thinking of possible ways to do this.. one which i have been considering lately is to make use of the fact that many who leave the organization actually leave the area, move away, and start a new life.
50 Essan in
yup, that's right.. if we apply the principle from god's own law at deuteronomy 22:8, that is.. .
"when you build a new house, you must build a railing around the edge of its flat roof.
that way you will not be considered guilty of murder if someone falls from the roof.
7 Essan in
i'm looking for a couple of the society's old books, one just prior to 1914 the other in the 1920's (as late as possible), which would show what the society was actually saying about 1914 in the run up to that year and that they were still promoting 1874 as the year of christ's presence for many years after 1914.. .
basically i'm looking for recommendations for two of their old books which would do the most damage to the modern jw claims about their past and show they could not have fulfilled prophesy or "qualified" for anything back then, as they claim.. .
there must be a couple of books which are really dynamite, choc full of nonsense and failed predictions.
32 Essan in
as i'm sure we all know, the society has lied repeatedly in the past about what they preached regarding 1914 in the run up to that year, claiming that what was preached was that jesus was to become king in that year and his presence was to begin then etc, when in fact they were preaching that all this had already happened in 1874 and that the end of the world would come in 1914.. .
but does anyone know if they have repeated this lie about what they supposedly preached recently?
when was the last time they claimed this?
209 Essan in
so, i'm formally challenging djeggnog to either substantiate or retract his outrageous claim that:.
1. russell made no predictions about 1914.. 2. specifically, russell never predicted christ's "coming" for 1914.
4 Essan in
the seventh armageddon is coming!.