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  Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

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  i am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .

  good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).

  my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.

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  If you wait on Jehovah to cut your grass... it ain't ever gonna happen.

  Waiting on Jehovah + Pray More = Nothing Gets Done + People Get Hurt/Ill/Dead
  
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  Remember this scripture: kindly yoke, light load, refreshment for your soul...

  by Muddy Waters in

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  matthew 11:28-30 "come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.

  29 take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for i am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for yourselves.

  30 for my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.. do you remember this scripture?

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  I feel Matthew 10:35 contradicts this scripture. How can one believe Jesus has a 'kindly yoke' and a 'light load' when he's just stated he's going to turn family members against one another?
  
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  "Millions Will Attend -Will You?" Mea Culpa!

  by Joe Grundy in

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  dubs are working the housing estate where i live.

  i was outside my house, applying some tlc to my old jag (worshiping worldly things?)..

  one old guy, half a dozen middle-aged and upwards ladies.

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  I will not be attending. I have important things planned for that evening starting with re-arranging my sock drawer.
  
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  YouTube video: Ex Jehovah's Witness becomes Catholic!

  by yogosans14 in

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  2. experiences

  http://youtu.be/lvjyq6drtl0.

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  Heaven

  Cult hopping... how to ruin your life.
  
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  Those of you that born in the Borg in the late 60;s and early 70's

  by James Mixon in

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  was life that bad for you?

  we are really sorry...

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  Heaven

  I was born in 1963. I was never baptized.

  My parents weren't 'dedicated' when I was a child so we didn't have the full brunt of what it must have been like for many who were. My Mom smoked and used that as an excuse not to get baptized or go out in Field Serve-Us. Back then Bible Studies were conducted in our home. We did not go to the Hall except on Memorial night and I only remember going once or twice.
  

  I was raised on the doctrines and life was a struggle, due to my logical, reasoning, intellectually honest mind. I remember being told that the end was so close I wouldn't grow old in this system of things, that I wouldn't even graduate high school, and I would definitely not need a job/career. I had a hard time swallowing this story as I got older. Here I am, almost 52 years old, and am now closer to the end of my career than the beginning of it. And yes, I have grown older.
  

  I remember having to justify to my parents every time I wanted to do something.

  The mantra from my Mom was: "What do you want to do that for?"

  I couldn't wait to graduate high school and move away to go to college. I had to get out of the house and away from the JW toxic mind-set.
  

  Despite my Mom's feeble attempts to dissuade us, my younger bro and I did go to 'higher learning'.

  None of us children are JWs nor are any of my parent's grand children. So much for the JW legacy in my immediate family.

  Other members of my family (on my Mom's side) are not so lucky.
  
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  Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?

  by yogosans14 in

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  is good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.

  btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.

  i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..

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  I truly believe he is real but I respect why some are atheists.

  Yes, well, I think I see your problem then.
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  why report more partakers?

  by rebel8 in

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  of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this.

  they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie.

  instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong"..

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  It may now have become a control and/or persecution tactic.

  Now that the # of partakers are actually increasing anyone who questions this is either a 'weak Witness' who needs shepherding or an apostate and is persecuting them.
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  Those darned apostates

  by berrygerry in

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  july 15, 1992 wt.

  "apostates capitalize on errors or seeming mistakes made by brothers who take the lead.

  our safety lies in avoiding apostate propaganda as though it were poison, which in fact it is.".

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  "They doth protest too much methinks."

  When claims made cannot hold up to scrutiny, when one tries, at every attempt, to quash inquiry, then there is something problematic with what is being presented.
  
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  Religion is a snare and a racket? Who knew?

  by Slave4_38y in

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  Heaven

  gone for good said: a day ago

  Heaven -

  so your Mom was ok with their deliberate move from just being ''imitating wannabees'' to a flully formed, legally recognised ''snare and racket'' of their own manufacture?

  Hey gone, I am not sure my Mom was ok with them declaring themselves as a religion due to their previous assertions that they were NOT a religion and therefore no part of 'Christendom'.
  

  My Mom was very clear that JWs were a sect and NOT a religion. This was pre-1973 (before I was 10 years old). I believe I was questioning the JW stance that they weren't a religion. It looked and sounded like one to me.
  

  Once Watchtower declared themselves a religion, my Mom said nothing. Neither did I as I was not one to introduce JWs and their crap as subject matter for discussion very often. I honestly think that my parents had their doubts but clung to the hope that their doubts were unfounded as many older JWs do.
  
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  Wife fully awake.

  by cappytan in

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  2. experiences

  i learned this past week that my wife is now awake.

  i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".

  she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.

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  Heaven

  Yay! I, too, was wondering when she would join us here.