FrankRaven
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Watchtower & Abaddon
by FrankRaven ina while back i heard that the watchtower said that christ and abaddon was the same.so i asked a few jws and they said,yes.. so i looked it up.in 1992 this is what the gb said......... .
i was off line......getting ready to shut down for the night.then i remembered my wt cd and abaddon.so i put it on.... a few months back a witnesses said that jesus was abaddon...i asked a few witnesses and they agreed.i couldn't believe it.wt says that christ was abaddon?since at the time i didn't have the cd i forget it until tonight.over the past few months i had posession of the wt cd library........ {watchtower;5/1/92,page 11}there it was.under,"keep close in mind of day,"the watchtower society said that christ was abaddon.may 1,1992 of the watchtower.. now,four,i know we do have a few differences,but check it out yourself.. sure...i was being sarcastic when i said sadeum+abaddon=christ...acccording to the watchtower......but i looked it up...it's there.......the witnesses were really right...the wt does say it.. my heart goes out to those poor witnesses because they must believe what the gb says....and the gb says that christ is abaddon.. how evil the wt really is?i just scratched the surface............ peace.
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Changes in Watchtower Literature
by FrankRaven in3, p. 228).. rewritten.
"this calculation shows a.d. 1874 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble; for 1542 years b.c.
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Do you Believe?
by FrankRaven ini have this exciting test..... do you believe test .
test a jehovahs witness belief today with the following questions: you will be surprise of the answer they will give you.
do you believe, jesus was crucified on a cross?.
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Does God Deceive Us?An Answer
by FrankRaven ini've read what joe alward wrote.if he's an atheist,i can see why he won't trust the bible.i mean after all,he has done the one major thing most folks why try to tear the bible apart to prove absolutely nothing.
by taking a verse out of content and not reading the next verse can mean anything for anyone.i mean the watchtower does it all the time.
example: ezekiel 20:25,"therefore i also gave them up to statutes that were not good,and judgments by which they could not live.
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To a Dear Friend in Riverside called Cliff K.
by FrankRaven in.
greetings cliff......it's been over 26 years since we lived next door to you on hall.i'm just wondering how your doing now days?still a watchtower follower?
(witness)today i'm an ordained minister and i follow after christ.never really liked the idea of following a man made org.. remember when we last talked?about 1987 or 1988?you moved,i believe, over to cyn crest area?remember when you told me how many people left because they were disfellowshipped or walked away from jehovah?well they really left the watchtower and not jehovah god.how do i know?simple,watchtower lies to all of their members in order to control them.. just one more thought.......luke 24:39,tells us that christ came back not as a spirit,but as he left to die.it's called resurrection.if christ came back in any other form he would have been reincarnation.. check it out........with christ......
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Resurrection or Reincarnation.........
by FrankRaven infolks,over the years,seem to think that they must change meanings and words so the words will fit their own truths.they think truth is relative.but the real facts remain that even though some people think truth is relative,at the same time truth is always open and anything else but truths is a lie.. from a hindu's point of reference reincarnation is a cycle of life in which when we die,we are reborn into another life.it matters not if the next life is improved or not.and returns with a new body,soul,or whatever karma allows itself to be.. resurrection,as in christ,means christ returned as he left.luke 24:39,makes that statement.
"and he said to them,"why are you troubled?and why do doubts arise in your hearts?behold my hands,my feet that it is i myself handle me and see...for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.
reincarnation is coming back,after death in something new.resurrection is coming back the same way.. wt or watchtower followers are famous in creating something from nothing out of the bible.they have changed their theology doctrine many times.and those who listen to watchtower is basically a watchtower follower.. so basically,as in luke 24:39,if we believe or teach that christ came back any other way,then we teach heretical blasphemy.
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Watchtower or AOL???
by FrankRaven in.
greetings:
it is my considered opinion that aol is worried about the watchtower bible and tract society.why do i make this statement?consider these facts....i was,until 8/8/2002,am a member of aol and aol has a messege discussion board on the watchtower.and since last year,i've been writing factual documents on the watchtower and within 24 to 48 hours that post i put in are gone.i've complained a few times to the room moniter and they say they didn't do it.since they are the only ones that can,they are my prime suspects.but i let it slide.. so when i do complain about abusive language,in which the moniters tell me if there is such an act to tell them,they refuse to do anything.then i hear from other aol members that tell me that their posts are gone,just as fast.. now i know that there are those who abusive the room and use bad language and abusive other members,because we are not watchtower followers,i know it's just par for the course.. at times,people lie,but numbers don't lie.out of,lets say,i put up 30 subject posts in a given year,and only about 6 go through for a week.other people's post are up more then a month.now that's strange.. it seems to me,my opinion,equal time doesn't count to aol.especially the main topic is watchtower society.. it's this writer's opinion that the watchtower has a hold of some kind on aol.
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Witnesses Are Great Folks
by FrankRaven ini know i'll get a lot of flack from this,but witnesses are good folks.and your average witness is concerned about you,non-witness.i've been there and i almost became one.my ex did become one.
it's not what they are taught by the watchtower,it's how one is taught.if one was what a witness was taught there wouldn't be any witnesses.it's how one is taught.most of the witnesses always told me,if you have any questions there's a book by the society that will answer your question.
(s)the watchtower is persistent.well so was i.the more books i read that the watchtower wrote,the more questions i had.and i,always,made sure i stayed on the topic.they never did.they always avoided my questions.and they are real good at that.
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Nazi Germany or WatchTower?
by FrankRaven inwatchtower has been silent on many issues,because they refuse to listen to others on key issues.we hear about the un,child molesters,sexual abuse,prophecies that are changed when a false prophecy fails.the one important issue above all is that the watchtower tries and some times successeds in absolue control.absolute control will always fail when one person stands up and says,"enough!".
watchtower denies the resurrection.....watchtower says,christ is nothing more then a man.watchtower adds or removes scriptures whenever it suits their purpose.watchtower says the chosen people are the 144,000.they don't care to read romans 11.watchtower says that the resurrection was a spirit when the bible clearly says in luke 24:39,that it was him,not a spirit.many witnesses can't see that.. like solomon who had 2 generals who thought better then the wise king.so solomon allowed the 2 kings who thought better carry out their plan and was killed by the enemy.how can a man confience those who are wrong when they think they are so right?in comes the holy spirit.. the watchtower adds truth to their lies.so did satan to eve.so when one adds a tiny truth to a complete lie the story winds up corrupt,so wrong,it becomes evil.. what is a lie,a fib,a white lie,or to give off information that would make a person or group believe other wise?nazi germany was very good at it.since we read that the society was involved with germany at the time,i,my own opinion,feel that some of the society was involved deeply.hilter wanted a 1,000 year reign too.but it was worship that hilter demanded too.so does the watchtower.jehovah god's spirit filled org.anyone who's a witness can you remember what was said as you were baptized?being baptizing in the name of the father,son,and......what?.
was the watchtower taken over by the spirit filled org and not the holy spirit?watchtower doesn't like john 14 either.nor do they enjoy romans let along romans 8.. i've read child sexual abuse,and other crimes that have been commited by members of the watchtower.plus the watchtower lies a lot.. witnesses,be very careful how you see the watchtower.if you doubt don't go asking the elders.they might want you to meet the commeette.watchtower wants absolute control.i shall never attack any one who's a witness.i confront the watchtower bible and tract society.are they witnesses you may ask?possible,but they are of the ruling class.they must be asked questions and they must be made accountable.the world made nazi germany accountable.we must make our leaders accountable,if they plan to rule.. as for pandelo,d8ta,and all the others who were brave enough to stand against golith,may god go with you,always............ .
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Concerning Luke 24:39
by FrankRaven inwhen one talks to a witness about the resurrection why do they always say that christ came back as a spirit when christ clearly said in luke 24:39,that he did not come back as a spirit?scripture clearly says that ,"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see i have.".
"it is not a form of religious persecution to say and.
to show that another religion is false .
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