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  A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

  by LisaRose in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

  when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

  there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

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  LISA- Thanks for relating this posters story. What a horrific experience she went though ! Sick. What's even sicker is the perpetrator threatening to go to the elders and maligning her character. Just disgusting. Sadly this is what women are facing everywhere when coming forward with sexual assault charges against unscrupulous men who are more concerned about saving their tainted reputations than admitting guilt . I hope life has been kinder to her in the years later than when she was 19 years old
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  Your favorite teacher?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "a teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence stops.

  " -- henry adams.

  were both your mind and heart touched by a particular teacher?.

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  flipper

  My favorite teacher ? Life experiences . Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

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  Injustices committed against not only myself but other JW's inside the organization. And once I escaped the WT organization- seeing the injustices brought against child abuse victims and their families confirmed I made the right decision to leave several years later. There were several other things that helped me decide to leave- but the catalyst was injustices committed by elders in the cult
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  Intro

  by jc1985 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.

  gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.

  my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.

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  JC1985- I'm very sorry to hear that your marriage is going down. I had that happen to me as well with my JW wife many years ago and divorced in the late 1990's. But you will live to love again another day sometime in the future. Life is like that. Changes in life bring both negative , but surprisingly enough, many positive changes as well. Like John Lennon stated, " Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans . " So true.

  As Wasanelder and others said, we are here for you as a support offering our friendship to you if you ever want to talk. Check your private mail here in awhile, I'm sending you my contact information so we can chat sometime if you'd like. Hang in there friend, we feel what you are going through and many here, including myself have gone through this. Check your PMs. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  1st month of fading

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm nearly at the end of my first month of becoming inactive.

  only my daughter knows.

  i've had a cold half of the month so no questions or pressure has been put on me yet.

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  I agree with Wasanelderonce. In my opinion the best way to exit the JW's is to just either fade quietly or stop cold turkey without any bells and whistles. If you're going to stop attending meetings anyway- what would be the reason to transfer any " publisher record cards " ? All that does is put you on the radar of the elders in your new congregation and they'll come knocking on your door - bugging you.

  I understand the wanting to maintain friendships thing- however- once you stop attending meetings - you are going to find out who your true and real friends are anyway. As you exit JW organization you need to surround yourself with supportive friends who will have your back- not conditional friends who will stomp on you at the drop of a hat, or the drop of your meeting attendance. Sounds like your daughter is supportive of you, and that's a great start.

  We are here as well in support of you, so if you ever need to communicate via E-mail or telephone, my wife and I offer our friendship as well. Hang in there, I know it's tough, many of us have dealt with this, it's all part of escaping the control of the WT Society regarding every aspect of your life. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  JW's on my front sidewalk

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so last weekend, the jw's ring the bell and my wife answers.

  we live in a heavily spanish neighborhood but don't really speak spanish.

  i thought my wife was quite clear that she is a "sister" to them, but maybe the one in charge of the group didn't get the message.

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  OTWO- Hey you did the best you could. Tried reasoning with them at every angle possible. You even gave them a chance to pull their heads out of their rear end- but they stubbornly just stayed inside their mind controlled comfort zone. It's like talking to a brick wall after awhile- but although they wouldn't admit it to you openly- they won't forget what you told them and who knows- if they get alone on a computer while making sure nobody is watching- they may indeed google what you told them to check out due to curiosity. One can only hope. Great job. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Billions die because fruit was eaten. Please think about this.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  counties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.

  even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.

  no such thing can happen.

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  I mean really, common sense should tell us that snakes never talk ( except for the one in the white house ) but I digress. And common sense tells us that if there was an " Adam & Eve " they wouldn't have just spoken with a snake like it's a normal everyday occurrence. Unless of course " Adam & Eve " were off their rockers mentally. Which may have in fact been the case. Perhaps they were mentally off.

  As well as all the other crazy " stories " written in the Bible that don't make any common sense at all. I mean- Jonah getting spit out of a whales stomach and surviving to tell the tale. Come on, he would have suffocated in minutes inside that whale.

  All of these Bible " stories " were just printed up by men to control other humans minds. It's all BS
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  Strange

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a couple of times at the meetings this year we've been told that in the future we might get some strange directions from the society that might not make any sense to us.

  then they've said will we show our loyalty to jehovah by still obeying?

  seems a rather unusual thing to say.

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  It's an exceedingly scary thing to say because if the WT leaders told JW's to jump off of a cliff to show their loyalty to " Jehovah " - some of them would do it ! That's the danger of WT leaders absolute control over these people. Remember Jim Jones & David Koresh. It's not that far fetched that WT leaders if backed into a corner with the possibility of losing their billions of $$$ might try something similar. Nothing they do would surprise me at this point in time
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  Worldy governments and the WTBTS are closer than most think

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every day i read the web log of generational dynamics.

  it a political/current affairs commentary, which over the years has proved to be quite insightful.

  however, today's commentary (for the 23rd) is quite relevant for witnesses and i encourage you to have a look at it, if you have a few minutes.

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  Indeed. I see no difference between how the Trump regime works and the WT Society leadership. Both dictatorships. Oh boy , I better hide behind a rock- I see the arrows flying at me now ! lol
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  Visited My Grandfather

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my grandfather is a longtime jw with advanced parkinson's.

  on the advice of a good friend mine who is inactive but not "out" i went to visit him monday and we talked for awhile.

  his health isn't well, but he was happy to see me.

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  It's really sad how snarky and rude JW family can be to us. I've experienced that treatment as well. Don't let it stop you from visiting your grandfather- especially since he enjoys your visits ! THAT is what's important here- that HE wants to see you, not the other part of the family. He's at the stage of life where HIS wishes should be honored , not cult infested relatives who don't have an ounce of empathy. You are doing great visiting your grandpa ! Keep up the great humanity and caring ! Keep visiting him ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper