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Nathan H. Knorr was a big baby
by under_believer inreading crisis of conscience by raymond franz today i came across an account of how knorr acted when franz, alone among governing body members, suggested that the monarchial system of absolute power vested in knorr and his predecessors was unscriptural, and since they had removed that arrangement from the congregations (replacing it with a body of elders arrangement) they should do the same thing at the headquarters: in each case of my doing so, however, the president took the remarks very personally, speaking at great length, his voice tense and forceful, saying that 'evidently some were not satisfied with the way he was handling his job.
' he would go into great detail as to the work he was performing and then would say 'now apparently some don't want me to handle things anymore' and that perhaps he should 'bring it all down here and turn it over to ray franz and let him handle it.
yes folks, this was the way the society's president from 1942 to 1976 acted.
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Today's word is... hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia!
by under_believer inhexakosioihexekontahexaphobia: the fear of the number "666".
apparently it is common enough that someone felt the need to coin a new word for it.
the most amusing thing, of course, is that "666" might actually be a mistranslation.
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I need advice re: monthly field service report
by under_believer ini stopped going out in service about a year ago.
just couldn't take it anymore.
after that, i still continued "studying" with my kids and "counting the time" for that.
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Forum History Lesson: Any ungratefuls?
by under_believer ini see a lot of posts here from people who, even though they've had trials and difficulties because of learning the truth about the truth, are appreciative and say things like "thank god for jwd!
it really set me free!
i'm curious whether anybody has ever come on here, learned the truth, accepted it and recognized it for the truth, but been unhappy because it meant trial and tribulation, hypocrisy, regret, change.
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Overheard at the June 4 2006 Watchtower Study
by under_believer inso, even back when i was a true believer i noticed this... .
this watchtower study today, i just got back from, was all about how great the elders are.
what always wigs me out about these things (because they trot this stuff out in a wt study every year or two) is how the elder conducting the study is up there talking about and praising the elders in the third person, saying how great they are, when he is an elder.
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Just finished reading "The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson"
by under_believer inwhat an eye-opener this book was.
go to this thread to read it yourself.
what an amazing experience!
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Overheard in a public library
by under_believer inwhen i was a kid, my parents (strong in the truth: father elder, mother regular pioneer) encouraged me to read.
in reality, they could hardly have held me back; i come from a long line of bookworms, including my father.
books were like water.
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Things JW's write: "It is reasonable to conclude"
by under_believer inquestion for y'all--do you think that the person on the writing committee who writes something like: "it is reasonable to conclude, then, <wild speculation>" suffers any kind of ill effects?
do they momentarily shudder?
do they even realize what they're doing?
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When you were a JW true believer, what were you most afraid of?
by under_believer init's been pretty well established that all religions use fear as a motivator, to some degree.
the jw's have honed this practice to a near art form.
what were you most afraid of when you were a jw?
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Things JW's say: "If I wasn't raised in, I would never have come in."
by under_believer inevery once in a while i hear a jw say "if i hadn't been raised in the truth, i never would have come into the truth.
" have you ever heard that?
wishful thinking?