What an interesting thought! If Joseph and Mary were members of a Hall today, they'd find themselves hauled in the back room, disfellowshipped and groveling for six months to a year for reinstatement. Their baby son would be ignored as a product of fornication until the announcement was read. Then, everybody would gush over baby Jesus and want to hold him!
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Spy & report sins of others, or be disfellowshipped
by OnTheWayOut inan example from ray franz's in search of christian freedom.. the gb expects faithful jw's to report their knowledge of serious sins .
on the part of other jw's to the elders.
they could face a jc, themselves .
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Got proposed to today
by hambeak ina very nice lady and very pretty who has been coming in for a few weeks now, is starting to become a fatal attraction.. she comes in for the most idiotic requests and has asked me out numerous times.
i keep giving her some excuse for not going out.. i can't tell her i am gay as that can destroy everything at work here.. any ideas?
i don't want to hurt her feelings or stop her from spending her money here as well as sending her friends and neighbors.
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Hambeak, you have a PM...
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New Ex-JW's: Smoking isn't worth it!
by AlmostAtheist init seems that many jw's take up smoking as soon as they leave the watchtower.
the reason is obvious -- they weren't allowed to!
lighting up is like giving the finger to the watchtower.
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Good advice! Smoking doesn't hurt the Witchtower Blabber and Trip Society at all. You're just hurting yourself when you smoke and get sick.
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Were you a loud singer?
by HockeyMullet ini don't know why, but i was just thinking of this guy in my hall that sang so loud that it was embarassing to just be there.
he sounded like the love child of kermit the frog and miss piggy.
i remember trying to mimick his voice during one song and getting counseled by one of the bros because i had a few of younger guys laughing.
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I used to lip sync and got warned about it alot. Mom would put her arm around me and pull me close so she could tell if I was singing. We would "share" a songbook, so loving and cozy. If I snickered, she'd dig her nails into my arm. I accidently dropped the songbook a lot.
There was a sister named Millie who belted out the song in alto, to harmonize with the rest of the Hall. She was hard of hearing, and really caterwaulled proudly and loudly.
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Songs to make an '80's Guy (or girl) cry.....
by avishai inanother thread inspired this one, and i'm making myself a lil' compilation.... i'll start.
"just like heaven" the cure.
"please, please let me get what i want" the smiths....
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Genesis..."Throwing it all away"
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what's your sign baby? ;)
by freedomloverr inwhere we live is a very *new agey*, *earthy* area.
when i was a witness i never thought twice about my astrological sign or how it relates to anyone else.
here, people are always asking what my sign is and i've really been entertained by how i see patterns with people in my life and how i've noticed i'm actually attracted to certain *signs* .
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The Virgochik is a Virgo, with a Gemini rising and a Cancer moon! Hubby is a Leo, charming, bossy and very forgiving.
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Do you recall your "point of no return"?
by JH inwas there something special that happened, an event or maybe a deception, that triggered your point of no return as a jw.. .
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I had moved into my first apartment with two room-mates. It just seemed so wierd putting on a modest Christian sister dress and hose when they were watching TV in sweats for the evening. I wanted to flop down on the couch, too! It's like pulling teeth to go to a meeting after missing several; you realize how much you hate them, and wouldn't mind never going to another one! I kept passing the entrance to the Hall and knew I just didn't want to turn in because nobody inside really cared about me and I didn't like them either. I never went back!
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i'm still alive...
by thebiggestlie ini want to thank all of you for all your thoughtful pms.
i'll respond to them in time but can't at the moment.
i wanted to just check in and let you know that i'm doing relatively ok. the confrontation with my parents was a bit sticky.
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Take good care of yourself physically, too. When I was in your shoes, sitting at meetings disgusted me to the point of nausea and headaches. I had to go along with it till I could get a job and an apartment. It is really tough to smile and pretend. Eat healthy, try to get enough sleep, prepare your plans. Are you allowed to go on to college? That'll give you some breathing room. If not, start looking at ads for jobs and apartments early, get an idea what they cost, and where you want to live. Save any money you have towards your new place. Figure out transportation, so the day you leave, you've got it all ready. That's what I did, I plotted for years, but once I walked, I never had to go back. One fine day, you'll escape and it'll be sweet!
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CONFIRMATION new watchtower mag arrangement
by yesidid init was announced at the service meeting.
so it's definately a goer.
starting jan 2008. .
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If this is a money saving strategy, why would they wait till January of 2008? Why not start sooner?
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Why Some Stay In The Organization
by Outaservice indon't you think a lot of brother's stay with the watchtower because in the real world they would never be anybody so-to-speak.
they would never even attain their '15 minutes of fame' that many have.. but, at the hall, they get to get up in front of an audience, and people listen to them as if they really have something to say!
and they're given a 'title' such as elder, ministerial servant, microphone handler (wow) etc.
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Like Gary said... the fathers aren't too well educated, and the cycle continues with the next generation. Not that I counted anyway, being just a girl. But I remember trying to read my school books in the car on the way to the meetings. I'd go out to the car again, after the meeting and try to do my homework under the streetlight while they had one of their long winded elder's meetings. Fortunately, I was a speed reader and managed to do fairly well in school. Not that anyone cared. School wasn't very important, as long as I didn't get held back a grade, because that could delay my graduation and pioneering.
I worked with an elder who was a mail carrier. He had many pretexts to stop by the Post Office on his day off, so we could all get a look at him in his suit, tie, and snappy italian leather shoes. That meant the world to him, to hear people say, "Wow, T, check you out! You look so nice, all dressed up! What's the occasion?" Then he could strut and tell us that he was a minister of Jehoopla, and he had a talk tonight at the Kingdumb Hall! I think he was partly sincere in his belief the Dubs had the truth, and partly puffed up with his own importance from all the admiration he got. This man is Hispanic, and I don't think (not positive tho) he finished high school. But he was somebody important in the congregation, and that's hard to give up.