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Nothing in Reasoning book about Disfellowshipping
by Goldminer ini had a talk with my father last night about the practice of disfellowshipping.my father is an active jw with privileges in the local hall.he doesn't seem in total agreement with the shunning practice of the wts,and he brought out the example of the prodigal son.we had a good discussion and i'm going to research it some more through the chapter on the misuse of disfellowshipping in the book in search of christian freedom.. anyways,i thought i'd look it up in the reasoning book to see what the wts reasoning on disfellowshipping was.it turns out it's not in the table of contents or in the index.i thought this odd;how would one reason on this with a householder who asks about it?
why is there nothing in the reasoning book on a subject every jw says is scriptural?.
goldminer
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Whatever happened to the pioneer-assist program?
by Goldminer in.
i remember about 5 or 6 years ago,they introduced the pioneer-assist program at one of the service meetings.the purpose of of this program was for the spiritually-strong pioneers to go out in service with an r&f member on a weekly basis for about 6 months to help build up others in the congregation.part of this was because in the mid to late 90's a large number of people had become jw's and they wanted to make good publishers with them.. anyways,my wife was quickly signed up as was another young sister down the road.my wife was excited about it and was really hoping to benefit spiritually.within a few weeks though,her pioneer partner started making up excuses why she couldn't go out with my wife until eventually their arrangement just petered out.the young sister down the road was also quickly ditched;the pioneer saying she had to care for her elderly mother(she didn't stop pioneering though).before long the pioneer clique was back to normal and the spiritually-strong pioneers were again going out in service with other spiritually-strong pioneers.i don't recall any updates or the program itself ever mentioned again at the kingdom hall,like it was just a bad experiment or a major burden on the pioneers.. does anyone have any experiences with the pioneer-assist program?
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Need help finding specific WT articles
by Goldminer in.
i'm looking for that article about the guy who went to a door with a beard and the lady was really put off by it and turned down the literature because of it.i believe it's in the '73 or '74 wt but i can't find it now.. also,not too long ago i read a wt article from the early 60's that specifically mentioned 10 hours of service.i believe blondie had put it in one of her posts.. if anyone can help me with these it would be greatly appreciated,i'm having discussions with my wife and her father about some wts rules that seem more like commandments of men that lack scriptural backing.mt 15:8-9. thank you.
goldminer
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what a difference 6 years makes
by Goldminer in.
summer 1998. my wife and i, along with 2 other couples and a single sister spent a week-end at a cottage.we had lots of fun;swimming,hiking,telling jokes,playing music,enjoying meals together.all in all a very fun week-end(except when a few had a panic attack on sunday morning and absolutely had to leave to go to the meeting).anyways the rest of us cleaned up and went back to town for lunch.. fast-forward 6 years-summer 2004.
6 of those 7 are now inactive(the 7th might be,i'm not sure),2 are disfellowshipped,one couple is divorced,the other couple are having serious marital problems(separated for a while),the single sister got married and is now living a life of hell(married to a complete power-hungry freak).the only couple still together are my wife and i,me struggling to fade away from the jw's and her struggling to do more for the "truth".. anyways,my wife and i were thinking about that week-end at the cottage and saying how we could never be us 7 again there to enjoy another week-end like that.and to think,jw's are supposed to be the happiest people,you'd think this would have become an annual thing,not people leaving each other or just becoming more miserable as the years pass us by.. thought you might find this story interesting,and if you think about it,how many jw's can tell a similar story?
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My list of 32 questions-Part A
by Goldminer inthe following is the first 15 questions that i handed over to the elder that was over at my house on the 24th of august.i will post part b as soon as i can.feel free to comment on any question.. where does the bible make such statements:.
1.that god has an "organization" on earth and uses a governing body to direct it?.
2.that the "faithful and discreet slave"is a "class" composed of only certain christians and that it operates through a governing body?.
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How many classes of sheep?
by Goldminer inso according to the teachings of the wts there are 2 distinct classes of sheep.really?.
here is a list of different classes i counted in the organization.
4.unbaptized publisher.
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My list of 32 questions-Part B
by Goldminer in1.do we approach god through christ(jn 14:6)or through his organization?
2.if the "faithful and discreet slave" was put in place in 33 c.e.
to disperse the "proper food at the proper time" ,thrn who,or where was the "faithful and discreet slave" from 100 c.e.
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Just got my copy of In Search of Christian Freedom
by Goldminer inmy book came in last week and i picked it up on thursday.i was nowhere near as nervous as when i purchased crisis of conscience.so far i've read the first 2 chapters and i will definitely learn a lot from this book,it's a real gem of spiritual truths and christian freedom.. while i was in the christian bookstore picking up my book i took the time to order 2 more books.. -the gentile times reconsidered.
-combatting cult mind control.
i'm looking forward to reading those also.hopefully i can subtely share some of this material with my family members who are still deeply brainwashed by the wts.. goldminer
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Does the WTS inflate year-end statistics?
by Goldminer ina few weeks ago i was looking through some of my wife's kingdom ministries and i noticed a very interesting stat.it appears that every year here in canada the number of active jw's takes a noticeable jump upwards in the month of august (the end of the service year) and then re-settles to a more regular number again in september.. after noticing this i went and looked in the older km's and checked a few more years with the same results.i don't know if this happens in every country but it seems to be happening here in canada.i found this strange since i remember august as being the month everybody slacked off because they "had their hours".also i know some students pioneer in the summer but they still would have been publishers before august.. here are the canadian stats for the years i found:.
july august september.
can anyone explain this logically or is this another one of their smoke and mirrors tricks?
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question about 4th edition of CoC
by Goldminer in.
i was wondering if anyone here has read the 4th edition(2002) of crisis of conscience.i am very curious to know if there is a new chapter on the un scandal.i have the 3rd edition(1999) and there is nothing on that subject in it.. thank you,.
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