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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened 9777 Replies latest watchtower scandals
I am starting to think Lloyd's lawyers realize they have a sucker for a client and they are going to bill the crap out of him. I hope they bleed his bank account dry.
Lloyd is using watchtower tactics here. By trying to silence the critics.
What he doesn't realize is the era of trying to silence people is also coming to an end. We are witnessing a shift in the current paradigm where the west is no longer a superpower. The death of the Roman empire teaches us a lot about what may happen.
Everything is about to change. What he has got away with for several years is not going to cut it anymore. People, in general, are sick of being told to fall in line or be silenced. And the Lloyd malarky is following in line with the current paradigm shift.
he's just too narcissistic to realise his ilk are now reaping what they have sown.
Man, Lloyd is totally delusional, lol.
Here's what happened, as I understand it ...
Lloyd told Kim Silvio that he'd been cheating on his wife with prostitutes for 3 or 4 years.
Kim was shocked at this, then put it out in the public domain so that Lloyd's patreons will know what this man is really like, and decide whether to continue giving him money or not.
Lloyd then put out a video on his own channel, admitting to using prostitutes but more or less tried to justify his behaviour by saying the WTS tampered with his sexuality (WTF?!).
Naturally, there have been lots of comments critical of his behaviour and attitude. There may also be a few piss-takers, and posts calling him a fat loser, pervy tosser, whatever. Some comments cheekily ask or suggest Lloyd saw ladyboys.
Any seriously verbally abusive or threatening posts directed at Lloyd BTL of his youtube channel would no doubt have been removed by him, as he is rightly entitled to do.
Lloyd took his video down.
Lloyd is claiming he has a defamation case against 7 people. He's not revealing the defamation details, just saying that it's in the hands of his legal team.
Er, and that's about it, as far as I can see.
'Mummy, mummy, some people have written mean things about me on the interwebs!'
Seriously, how the hell can this case go to court?
PS - in a way, it's good that Lloyd is paying lawyers to look at this case. Lawyers don't come cheap.
How can he hire a lawyer to file criminal charges? Thats the state's job. You dont have to hire a lawyer for criminal prosecutions.
Yeah, that part seems odd. An individual can press charges or report crime to the authorities, at which point a prosecutor can determine whether or not to follow through. Defamation is an actual crime in Croatia, the sort of law that can help keep the press in line when the government is as sensitive as Evans. I would be surprised (and quite amused) if the government agreed to spend tax dollars to pursue criminal charges in such a case.
But when you are confident that no one will contest the charges, you can file away and bluster all you want online. The problem will be the aftermath, when the 'defendants' continue to poke fun at him and mock him endlessly even after they were all 'convicted' of the crime of insult.
The only time he has provided anything close to specifics is when he has referred to the accusations of grooming a 14-year-old. If those accusations cannot be proven, then he's potentially got a case against anyone who made the accusation. The question then becomes, who made those accusations? Can he demonstrate that any of the seven made those accusations publicly and with malice? Remember, defamation would require that a person make a claim that is untrue or that they cannot prove is true, made with malice aforethought.
He cannot file a credible civil/criminal claim for statements made about him that he has confirmed to be true. He has denied that he groomed a 14-year-old or that he had any sort of sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl when he was in the UK. Aside from that, he has admitted to lots of stuff. He cannot win a case against any of those claims, nor would a judge allow him to base a lawsuit on the definition of "regularly" and how it applies to his admitted actions.
He REFUSES to accept responsibility for a mistake and won't even apologise when the truth is uncovered..
'If something goes wrong and it's his fault, he'll flatly deny it...
'I admitted f***ing up once and he said – with a wry smile, I hasten to add – "Don't do that." He
maintains his authority by never being to blame for anything.'
No, not our friend, but Tom Cruise apparently according to his co actor Simon Pegg in todays paper.
Cappytan makes a good point about this part:
At some point soon it is my hope that a full list of examples of precisely how I have been defamed by each of the defendants during the three-month window (Jan 31 to April 30) will be made public. We had hoped that this would be included in the original filing but due to time constraints my legal team chose to wait for the court to invite them to amend the paperwork retroactively with specific examples based on evidence I compiled back in April.
So, his 'legal team' did not include any actual examples of defamatory statements when they filed the criminal complaint, instead preferring to wait for the court to ask them to provide some? And this is why he hasn't made any of them public? Does he understand how the legal system works? This really does make me think that his lawyer is taking him for a ride (all expenses paid!). Imagine that you decide to file assault charges against your neighbor, and when the cops ask what happened, you tell them to file the charges first and ask for specifics later. Your amended complaint, you tell them, will detail what actually happened.
If you're lucky, they'll simply ask you to leave. Otherwise, it won't be your neighbor spending the night in jail.
In any case, it's as expected. Just a few hours after he made the statement, and already the 'defendants' are making fun of him and having a laugh at his expense. VAH's comment that he and Marc Latham would start a gang in Croatian prison made me laugh out loud.
Beautiful Cora has a message for Lloydy Boy on twitter...