It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  • Simon
    Unlike you guys, I have nothing to hide including my identity.

    Is Tibor your real name? Not Hrvoje Vujanić? Just curious ...

    You've already confirmed the only thing we really need to know - that you're a blind adherent to Lloyd who doesn't care how women are treated (because those things are mutually exclusive).

    It's always good to know what people are really like. Your name will now forever be linked to him and what he's done. Incredible that you don't have the smarts to distance yourself like everyone else has, but I guess "money", right?

    BTW: must be getting late over there - don't you have to toddle back and report to Lloyd?

  • Chinapomo

    Yes Tibor. Literally no one cares about the green screen thing. How many times do we have to tell you?

    What I personally do care is to know if you are ok with Lloyd's abusive behavior. Can you please reply? Do you publicly condemn what he has already admitted to? Or you don't even see the problem there? Are you ok with his hypocrisy of using sex workers and at the same time claiming to be an csa survivors advocate?

  • CalvinistEmily

    Lloyd's a punter whether he uses a green screen or not. They all deserve the rope. I've known enough prostitution survivors personally to have seen the absolute horrors that industry, and the men who patronise it, inflicts on its victims. And those are the lucky ones who got out and are still alive.

    One of the big reasons my family is so emotionally reticent is that my grandmother escaped trafficking as a "comfort woman" in Semarang, her friends didn't. She was tortured in a forced labour camp for years, and she still considered herself lucky to be there instead of the brothels, because they were far, far worse. All the public whitewashing of prostitution and claims of "happy hookers" in the last few decades triggered her trauma because it sounded just like the fascist IJA. And so did Lloyd in his livestream, making excuses for what amounts to serial rape. By his own admission, he repeatedly paid to do whatever he liked to, at worst, trafficking victims, and at best, people who only "consented" because they needed the money. It's all rape, it's just different kinds/severities.

    I had been a fan and supporter of Lloyd in the first place because he positioned himself as fighting sexual abuse. If he had any sense of responsibility, ethics, or empathy towards his victims, he'd do the right thing and turn himself in to the police, or he'd find some other way to make certain he couldn't rape trafficking victims ever again. I mentioned in my voicemail that my own father died when I was very young, but he was a good man; it traumatised me, but that grief is bearable. I feel terribly sorry for Lloyd's daughters having a living serial rapist for a father.

  • Incognigo Montoya
    Incognigo Montoya

    Been lurking for a while, watching this soap-opera play out. Gotta say, from my perspective, most everyone is an asshole here (the players in this situation, not the commenting bystanders). Lloyd definitely being the biggest a hole of all, but Kim and Mikey, you're shit stinks in all this too...

    You all seem keen on calling Lloyd on his BS. But you tolerate Kim and Mikey. Why? They have made some serious allegations, or at the very least facilitated allegations. How do you just walk away from that?

  • Route-666

    "Jesus you people are crazy. You will latch onto literally anything."

    Tibor: Personally, I was interested in the green-screen thing because I thought it could provide information as to whether or not JLE was still using the actual bunker. My concern all along has been Djana and the obvious abuse she has been subjected to both publicly and privately. If JLE was out of the bunker, then perhaps that would be an indicator he had been sent packing, which from my perspective could only be a good thing for everyone else living in that household. But now that Kim Silvio has entered the room and confirmed that DE is proceeding with a divorce, The Mystery of the Clue in the Green-Screen is moot.

    Edit to add: I realize that work might be hard to come by in your area, but do you really want to be associated with such a person? You know that it's only a matter of time before that T-shirt will read "Et tu, Tibor?"

  • NonCoinCollector

    I never said this topic was only about the green screen issue. But the green screen conspiracy is why I'm here, do you understand now? The technical side of Lloyd's production is my responsibility and it's something that I won't take any BS about. I can easily disprove your weird theories and I came to do exactly that.

    I wish you cared more about Sex Abuse as you do Lloyd's video quality. Nice to see you care more about if Lloyd looks like he is standing in front of a green screen than if he is using abused women in Thailand. It is all about priorities, am I right?

    If you really are Tibor, then you and your boss are still garbage as I told you 2 months previously.

  • Incognigo Montoya
    Incognigo Montoya

    Kim, you mentioned in one of your first comments a distrust of Mark O'Donnell. This isn't the first time you've brought this up. Will you elaborate, please?

  • notsurewheretogo

    Kim advised that Lloyd and her have started divorce proceedings thus the green screen is not a "conspiracy" rather than has has he moved out etc. It's curiosity nothing more.

    Whilst all my other points still stand.

  • Newly Enlightened
    Newly Enlightened

    Some info why some of us have issues with Redwood a.k.a Mark O'Donnel

    The documents Atlantis posted from us were unique & interesting, because this Kingdom hall was selling their 'water rights' seperately from the sale of the Kingdom Hall.

  • Toblerone5

    When KIMSILVIO first started to post here ,everybody was asking if it was really her ,and you know what she did,SHE IMMEDIATELY POSTED A PHOTO OF HERSELF...TI-LORD...

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