It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  • Vintage

    ComingOutaMyCage said,

    Wow, I'm disappointed by the infighting against Lloyd.”

    It’s taken a day for it to sink in on me that by using the term “infighting”, ComingOutaMyCage imagines that “we” here on this forum thread are in some mutual group with “Lloyd Evans”. Mmmm. No. Bra-ha-ha-ha.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    I don’t know whether Lloyd doesn’t understand or chooses not to see.

    As a reader of his book I’ll opine that both can be true at the same time. This is just how the mind of Lloyd Evans works.

    I think he genuinely feels stuck in that marriage when his real fantasy was to bang as many as he could, and now he’s trying to make up for lost time.

    As he put it in his livestream, he’s trying to deal with his “fucked up situation” and he feels that Dijana’s limitations as a sexual device for him has sexually frustrated him. Whatever happens after that is completely not his fault.

    Since he had admitted to 3-4 years of paying for sex, it probably didn’t immediately raise alarm bells regarding Thailand as he had already normalised the practice in his own head.

    The reason why he’s so irritated at Kim and everyone else is because he got caught after the fact and he did not realise how bad of a look that was until pointed out to him. In true vintage Lloyd fashion, he’s pushing back on that as hard as he can without ever stopping to reflect on his actions, the Thailand sex trafficking angle and is working non-stop to save what has become his business.

    I think he understands it now, and is intentionally choosing not to see.

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz

    @ Diogenesister, apologies I didn't your earlier post ,if you noticed i posted the group's name number and email address that organises these events and they said the right person will get back to me next week to get my details, their name is

  • Vintage

    I’m American. Does the UK group have any use for my opinion?

  • TonusOH
    KIMSILVIO: I don’t know whether Lloyd doesn’t understand or chooses not to see.

    I think it's a bit of both. It is clear that he does not think that his use of sex workers disqualifies him from being involved in efforts to confront organizations that have tried to suppress evidence of CSA in their ranks. I think he is also trying to make prostitution seem like a victimless crime, at least where his own activity is involved.

    Neither of those views makes me think that he is qualified to take part in efforts to get justice for those who have been victims of sexual abuse. But he may not care, at least until such time as he is forced to confront his actions and his attitudes.

  • Toblerone5
    Would Dijana have said "yes" to a marriage proposal if she had known that THIS ...

    Back then they were both JW. so I don't think he was thinking

    of having sex with as many women...Yet...But what do you think ,the cute Croatian pioneer JW would have react .if he had told her ,by the way even though I'm a pioneer, MS ,I'm addicted to internet porn , and I like to play with my genitals ALL THE TIME..And I don't even fell sorry for it too! In fact guess what I did ,in the bethel shower, while attending MS school ? Yep....Told you ...ALL THE TIME... Now ,want to go out with me?

  • Toblerone5

    Are you all thinking, what I'm thinking... He's not taking about the price of gas here...and also interesting he Drove there? The ''Bank" (or patrons $$$) could not afford a plane ticket ? and November is usually a cheap month for traveling...interesting... Then he tried to make a joke at the end...Important WORK was done , right... I did chuckle when i read it ...

  • JeffT

    Something else to think about (writing fiction helps me get inside other people's heads).

    We all have a story about ourselves, and no one is the bad guy in their own story. I've had to deal with my inner bad guy, it is neither easy nor comfortable. But the process leads to being a better person. It is also not something you can do alone, that leads to deluding yourself into thinking that you've conquered your problems. Having another person, such as a therapist to call you out from time to time is critical to being honest with yourself.

    So far, I don't see any sign of this happening here.

  • Toblerone5

    I'm Canadian, so if he drove there , he must have drove through the Netherland? Maybe he Stop in Amsterdam?...Well .at least this time he went to a country that Prostitution IS legal... It was just a sarcastic joke...don't need to make a big ''INFIGHTING" deal about this...

    OOPS! just saw this on Google:In Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Greece, Turkey, the Netherlands, Hungary,and Latvia, prostitution is legal and regulated.

    no wonder he ''Was Glad "WE" Went"? Wait "WE" ? Oh Tibor not you too...

  • TonusOH

    The airport in Croatia (or wherever he would have landed) is probably quite a drive from his home.

    Toblerone5: Back then they were both JW.

    In his book, he talks about sexting with girls (his word) while he was still an MS or elder. Being a JW didn't really present a problem for him. Having his wife find some of his text messages was an inconvenience, though.

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