American democracy in crisis

by slimboyfat 94 Replies latest social current

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    LOL, so Hilary is responsible for all acts of violence against white people? That's hilarious.

    This has never been acceptable behavior for anyone and that will not change. EOM, you are completely irrational.

  • HBH
    HBH

    Democracy, that's a laugh. How could you buy this propaganda? Does anyone talk about ending imperialism? No, because 70% of discretionary spending is on the military. Corporate powers make big money on war, and are not about to stop. Voting means nothing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

    ecerpt from a Morris Berman speech Nov 4 2011:



    the French writer Denis Duclos, who is a
    director of the CNRS, the research institute in Paris,
    pegged the problem of the obsession with having an
    enemy and the violence that results from that in his book
    of 1994 Le Complexe du loup-garou, The Werewolf
    Complex. In his epilogue to the 2005 edition, Duclos
    writes that “America is always dependent on a werewolf
    figure, a dark, savage beast that’s out to destroy it. The
    beast,” he says, “changes in content, but the form is
    always the same. At the center of this,” he says, “is a
    terrible fear that Americans have of emptiness, which is an
    anxiety of not existing, and they disguise this with a
    hyperactive optimism.” -----Have a nice day. ----“A curious
    society,” he writes, “a people who don’t know who they
    really are. Like the Romans, they see themselves under
    siege.” And, he says, “This could finally trigger a fascist
    populism,” which, of course, we’re seeing with the Tea
    Party. “The American fear of the monster,” he writes, “has
    always marked its history, whether this exists on the inside
    or the outside. This leads to isolating the country in a sort
    of collective psychosis that can only contribute to
    international instability.”
    In fact, that’s how most of the world sees us. A few
    years ago there was an international poll that asked the
    question, “Which nation do you believe is the greatest
    threat to world peace?” The United States and Israel said
    Iran, and everybody else said the United States. Writing in
    Der Spiegel last August, the German journalist Jakob
    Augstein argues that the U.S. is basically a failed state; it’s
    not part of the West anymore, and that Europe needs to
    keep its distance from what is a very different and
    apparently, his word, “insane” political culture. There is,
    he concludes, no deliverance in sight for the U.S.
    What does mental health mean in an individual case?
    It’s at least this: That a person knows his or her personal
    narrative and is able to see it from the outside and, as a
    result of this transparency, at least try to do something
    about it. Perhaps the same thing is true of a nation or a
    civilization. I don’t know. But what I know is that there is
    very little understanding in the U.S. as to what the
    underlying narrative is, or even the fact that there is an
    underlying narrative. This seems to escape most
    Americans, almost all.


  • supernerdboy
    supernerdboy

    Lisa you think Killery is less of an Authoritarian? If you are gonna do a bianary Trump vs Hillery comparison at least realize that Hillery has a LOT more death on her hands! Look up Jill Stine, you seem to be a lefty I think you will really like Jill! No fears you not voting Dem is not gonna effect the election much at all. In fact most 3rd party voters are more right then left. There has not been a non Authoritarian US leader in a LONG time.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    LOL, so Hilary is responsible for all acts of violence against white people? That's hilarious.
    This has never been acceptable behavior for anyone and that will not change. EOM, you are completely irrational.

    I'm irrational? Let's think rationally on this. First of all, in this exact situation, a black officer shot a black thug armed and holding a stolen semi automatic handgun. Those 'protesters' riot, burn down businesses, and call to burn down 'white' businesses and also hunt and beat up anybody driving in the neighborhood who happens to be white.

    Why would they be mad at white people? No white person was even involved in the incident.

    They blame white people for their current situation in life. They blame white people for all the black deaths occuring. The media and BLM constantly mention how young black men are 10X more likely to be killed. They ignore that white people have nothing to do with that. They mention how a disproportionate number of black people are unemployed, or in poverty, or don't finish school. They ignore that within a big amount of those numbers that that community considers it being 'too white' to finish school and go to college (They would get for free since they are poor enough to qualify for full pell grants, etc). They ignore most don't have a family. They ignore all the true underlying factors that are at the root of the problem and say that racism and white people are to blame.

    They also keep saying how police (in their minds white people are the same thing as police) are hunting them down. (Somehow associating the 50 to 100 weekly shootings in cities like chicago are black on black crime). They say that police don't care if one of theirs is killed, only if a white person is killed is the killer caught. They ignore that they and nobody else will ever tell the police anything because reporting murders is snitching. The culture idolizes the gangsta rap, whose music is filled with speaking about violence and won't release a label until enough profanity will get it a warning label on it.

    So all of these problems because of the CULTURE are just making things worse. Then suddenly you have Obama and the democrats/liberals who want to be politically correct and not mention the true causes, so they go along with saying that they are being treated unfairly, there is racism against them, and they have cause for being angry, looting/rioting etc. Obama always siding with them. The entire BLM is based on a lie.

    Since it's 'racist' to point out the facts, most don't challenge or say anything published/facebook/etc by BLM. Since the true facts show police aren't targeting them, more unarmed white shootings infact, and the number is so low with having 1.2 million police and millions of calls each year, that this happens...

    Letting the lie go on, EVERY TIME a black person dies (even if armed dangerous thug), and no more by just a white officer but even by black officers now, they will get more angry. One protester/rioter also said when interviewed about why rioting, he said how "all them rich people have all this money and don't want to give us none". So letting the lie that being poor is based somehow on white people just getting money for free and not sharing vs education and hard work will continue to let that boil up.

    Crime statistics show that there is a LOT more black on white attacks and crimes than vice versa. All incidences are usually hushed by the media. But if reversed it's international news. This makes black people think they are being attacked when in actuality the reverse is happening.

    Hillary supports this movement and a vote for her let's it carry on. The future of this will be that the attack of blacks on whites will reach a point that whites fight back. Or as in the Milwaukee situation, imagine if they did start attacking a white suburbs then the owners there well trained and armed shot a bunch of them. Race war ignited.

    Trump is not politically correct. He won't allow the lies to go on. He won't go on national press and make it seem the police are targeting them when they are not.

    So am I really irrational or is it you who are irrational or blind to what is really happening?

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    I haven't heard Hilary say she supports black lives matter, in fact she got in trouble with them for saying "all lives matter". I'm not saying its not true, I have no idea, so what is your source for that? Breitbart doesn't count.

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    Let's settle this once and for all. Hillary is about defending the status quo. Trump is just an unstable megalomaniac.

    Tell me that makes Hillary equal to Trump.

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose
    Lisa you think Killery is less of an Authoritarian? If you are gonna do a bianary Trump vs Hillery comparison at least realize that Hillery has a LOT more death on her hands! Look up Jill Stine, you seem to be a lefty I think you will really like Jill! No fears you not voting Dem is not gonna effect the election much at all. In fact most 3rd party voters are more right then left. There has not been a non Authoritarian US leader in a LONG time

    Hillary does not adopt an authoritarian style of leadership. At the convention Trump was saying "The country is going to hell in a handbasket and I am the only one who can fix it. Hillary was saying " Things are not so bad and together we can make them better." Its a completely different approach.

    I heard an interesting analysis of this on NPR. Some peoplre are more comfortable with an authoritarian style and they are drawn to Trump, the statistics on that are quite clear.

    I am a moderate Democrat. I don't have a problem with Hillary's politics, just her integrity. I am not at all knee jerk liberal, I am not voting for Jill Stien, I am hearing that in the past she has come out against GMOs and vaccines, two areas on which I am not liberal at all, if you could could consider that a liberal thing. I believe in science.

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot
    Lisa you think Killery is less of an Authoritarian? If you are gonna do a bianary Trump vs Hillery comparison at least realize that Hillery has a LOT more death on her hands! Look up Jill Stine, you seem to be a lefty I think you will really like Jill! No fears you not voting Dem is not gonna effect the election much at all. In fact most 3rd party voters are more right then left. There has not been a non Authoritarian US leader in a LONG time


  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries
    I haven't heard Hilary say she supports black lives matter, in fact she got in trouble with them for saying "all lives matter". I'm not saying its not true, I have no idea, so what is your source for that? Breitbart doesn't count.


    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-clinton-responds-to-police-shootings-black-lives-matter/article/2595899

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/21/hillary-clinton-declares-black-lives-matter/


  • Viviane
    Viviane
    A vote for clinton is a vote for turning this country into a communist/socialist country.

    Well, now I know you don't know what either of those words means.

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