Prayers that God answers. Any examples?
I'll let you know for sure after the lottery numbers are given tonight.
Prayers that God answers. Any examples?
by punkofnice 259 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Mary
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Cofty: So are there no amputees today who have enough faith? Not one?
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Apparently when it comes to faith they don't have a leg to stand on.
tec:
Another example of prayer, are those that have been answered, but we do not yet see the result of that answer.
So, as Cofty said, your world with god is pretty much like a world without god...
If your oncologist told you the surgery was a success, you were 100% cancer free, however...there's still a watermelon-sized tumor in exactly the same place as before the surgery, that would still be a cure? The result just isn't apparent yet?
In that case, I have a great deal on some oceanfront Wyoming property I think you might be interested in.
So, no concrete examples of prayer yet?
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AndDontCallMeShirley
tec: I do think that you misunderstand what I mean when I say they are 'partial'. The accounts are complete (well, as far as we know)... but they do not present the FULL picture of Christ
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So they are definitely complete but probably partial (as far as we know).
Got it.
I'm not Jewish, but oi vey!
Could your brand of theology possibly have any more escape hatches?
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tec
I am pretty sure that the OP has been answered. That a couple of you will only accept God healing an amputee as an actual answered prayer... well, that is on you.
So, as Cofty said, your world with god is pretty much like a world without god...
Not even remotely. MY world would be very much different.
If your oncologist told you the surgery was a success, you were 100% cancer free, however...there's still a watermelon-sized tumor in exactly the same place as before the surgery, that would still be a cure? The result just isn't apparent yet?
That does not make any sense, and has nothing to do with what I said.
Peace,
tammy
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tec
I think you may be trying to make things more difficult than they are.
The accounts are complete, as they were written. They do not present EVERYTHING that ever happened with Christ when he was here in the flesh, or everything that He did afterward, as the Spirit.
Its like reading a book about anyone. It gives you a partial picture, but it never gives you everything.
I don't know what is so hard to understand about that?
Peace,
tammy
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cofty
So, as Cofty said, your world with god is pretty much like a world without god...
Not even remotely. MY world would be very much different. - Tammy
I was not talking about your fantasy life. I was referring to the real world.
If this impotent god of yours didn't exist it would be identical to this world.
Actually your world wouldn't change either. You would still interpret your inner voice as being of divine origin and you would still apply confirmation bias with 100% vigilance.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
MY world would be very much different. - Tammy
"Thou shalt not listen to any other voices but the one in your head" would be the 11th Commandment.
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tec
Well, to try and stop you guys from turning this into a thread all about me, I am going to bow out. It's not like we've never been down this road before, or won't be again.
Peace,
tammy
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Miracle of Calanda:
Alternative Explanations
Author Brian Dunning has done extensive research and notes that "there is no documentation or witness accounts confirming his leg was ever gone." He presents a non-miraculous explanation that Pellicer's leg did not develop gangrene during the five days at the hospital at Valencia. He spent the next 50 days convalescing, during which he was unable to work. He turned to begging, and discovered that having a broken leg was a boon. After his leg had mended, he decided that if a broken leg helped, a missing leg would be better. Traveling to Zaragoza, he bound his right foreleg up behind his thigh and for two years played the part of an amputee beggar. Later, back at his parents home in Calanda, forced to sleep in a different bed, his ruse was discovered. The story of the miracle was a way to save face. Dunning notes "that no evidence exists that his leg was ever amputated — or that he was even treated at all — at the hospital in Zaragoza other than his own word. He named three doctors there, but for some reason there is no record of their having been interviewed by either the delegation or the trial." That the hole in the cemetery of the hospital of Zaragoza in which the leg had been buried was found empty is consistent with the leg never having been amputated. [3]
So, no concrete examples of prayer yet?