High Profile Case: Seeking Reinstatement

by headisspinning 113 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Listener

    How are things going headisspinning?

  • headisspinning

    Uh... well... we're still alive. LOL!

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Maybe it's just me - I tend to be pretty skeptical about these "high drama" JW stories now. Yours included.

    I find it interesting that you said, "I approached my own elders and told them the situation. They dealt swiftly and disfellowshipped both of us."

    Let's see if I got this right, YOUR elders disfellowshipped a person from another congregation? Is that so?

    Spring is in the air, and I think I can smell the BS on the garden.

  • headisspinning

    We are from two different provinces. He moved out here at the end of August and my body of elders corresponded with his body of elders by telephone. Rather than have him fly back to his original province, my body of elders met with him and then consulted with his hometown body of elders. He was told he was disfellowshipped by the body of elders here although he also spoke with one of the elders from his original congregation over the telephone. (The official disfellowshipping took place mid way through September).

  • rebel8

    Can you see any way the 2 dichotomies below can be rectified? If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

    I know it's probably terrifying for you to think about this and accept that, but truth is truth. Better to be honest with yourself. Even though it's painful, at least you will be living your life in honesty and integrity (unlike the people you are striving to be accepted by).

    I still believe the Truth and I love Jehovah... I just dont' understand how the people can be so self-righteous, controlling and judgmental.

    By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.

    You said you have no interest in apostacy. That's totally fine. Most people here have no interest in changing your beliefs.

    Best wishes to you.

  • Found Sheep
    Found Sheep

    I have not read all 7 pages of your story so someone else may have said this...

    Please read crisis of conscience by raymand franz and combating mind control by steven hansen...

    It's a cult! the sooner you and your husband see that the quicker you two can heal! best wishes and just try to love your new life

  • Found Sheep
    Found Sheep

    oops I guess it was 6 pages

  • headisspinning

    I am going to order "Crisis of Conscience" tomorrow. I'm going off the big kid diving board and I'm just going to take the plunge!

    Then I will look at the other book you mentioned. I also ordered the Bible Students book... "The Divine Plan of the Ages". I just want to read it and see what rings true.

    Thanks to all of you.

    It is painful... but coming to terms with what I have always believed NOT being "The Truth" is not anywhere near as painful as losing my family when I was disfellowshipped. If I can get through that, I know I can get through anything.


  • saltyoldlady

    Dear Headspinning - First I want to say I will be praying with all my heart for you and your hubby to be surrounded with God's love - to help you through this traumatic time. It is wonderful that you have this deep bond with one another - treasure it, and thank God for it. He meant you to strengthen one another. I am so glad that the ex spouses involved have had the maturity to encourage you back into the fold. And I will pray that the contact with your hubbie's former children by his previous marriage can be increased and grow - that things can soften in that area.

    May I also encourage you to read Ray Franz's book In Search of Christian Freedom - it is available in PDF format for $9.95 last I looked and contains so much spiritual depth. It is the 2nd and last book he wrote. I wrote letters to him and he always corresponded right back - sometimes with lengthy letters that were so rich. When I told him I was so sad about what had happened to him but I still found much good in the organization - my view at that time similar to yours - his reply was beautiful - he just simply said he was glad that I had found good and I knew he was sincere in that expression. It was so remarkable he didn't harbor bitterness in his soul. He accepted me where I was, as a person beginning to see problems, but as a person that still treasured much in the organization. I want to extend the same dignity to you.

    To Wanna Be Free - thank you for the marvelous You Tube video - I watched the whole hour and thirteen minutes worth - and was so moved by it - tears even streamed down my face as I felt their miracle of change. Though I still am anti-trinitarian in my views and was so before ever knowing the WTS but it was so very moving to see their willingness to let the Bible speak its truth to them and their courage to just follow the Word and not the teachings and traditions of men. And I kept wondering would the brothers in the Governing Body of today's WTS ever be willing to do the same? It is indeed an amazing miracle to see the Worldwide Church of God come out from under their legalistic background. If it happened once for one organization it could happen again. Prayer is indeed a mighty force and I thought the one sister's comments about Jack Hayford doing a prayer walk around the campus so fascinating. He was the same man who so inspired Stormie O'Martian on her spiritual course and Headspinning I highly recommend The Power of a Praying Woman by Stormie O'Martian to you also, and the Power of a Praying Wife another marvelous one to help your spiritual walk while you are waiting. You will not find anything doctrinally objectionable in these. And wishing you peace - not in the way the world gives it but as our Lord extended it.

  • headisspinning

    To Saltyoldlady...

    Thank you for your kindness and sincerity. I really appreciate it. I have made a note of the books you have mentioned... thank you for the suggestions.

    And yes, my husband and I are very fortunate to have each other. I am very thankful and I know that at long as we are together we can get through anything.

    My ex-husband (who has been a real jerk) texted me today. He told me the Great Tribulation is right around the corner and he practically begged me to come back to the Truth. So, despite the past, I at least appreciate his concern and like you said, maturity in wanting us to return.

    Thank you.

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