What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?

by theMadJW 282 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • theMadJW
    theMadJW

    LOLOLOLO!

    "Isn't that right MadJW ? The organization is pretentiously deceitful and so are the people that follow it."

    I have never found that to be the case (except in ONE congregation, where the elders were dishonest!).

    After all, how can we think ourselves so wonderful- when we all have so many faults!

    I am not talking people or organization- I am talking about scripture.

    ANYONE striving to follow Christ will still fall short of HIS example; we ASPIRE to it, not claim to have REACHED it.

    So, NO, that ISN'T right, AH.

  • theMadJW
    theMadJW

    "JW leaders go beyond what is written in the bible. "

    Examples, please...other than with speculation on prophecy, of which I quickly AGREE with you!

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    "JW leaders go beyond what is written in the bible. "

    Show the scriptures that say we should dress and groom according to the stipulations laid down by the WTS.

    Show me the scripture that states our kids should nogt get a college education.

    Show me a scripture that states the FDS are the GB of the WTS and were chosen in 1919.

    Show me a scripture that say specifically that Birthdays are wrong but wedding anniversaries are OK.

    Show me a scripture that says shunning family and friends is right when they disagree with a man made organisation.

    I could go on!!!!!!!!!

  • theMadJW
    theMadJW

    I assert that the WTS got 1914...lock, stock and barrel from the Adventist

    So? If the adventists were right ( I TRIED to debunk it!), they were RIGHT!

    I assert Russell mix-matched various beliefs into his personal religious opinions

    So? If they match what the Bible says- he did the right thing!

    I assert that Russell was not a 'godly' man and all you have to do is look at court documents to see this truth manifest.

    LOLOLO! Spoken from someone who believes church propaganda; I'll post something on this next!

    I assert that 1918-1919 appointment was a later revision

    So?It's goofy enough on its own!

    I assert that holy spirit was denounced as unimportant retroactively from 1918-1943.

    Has NEVER been the case, unless you are referring to Casper the Friendly Ghost-God...

    I assert that angels are proclaimed to be the source of Rutherford era 'light' in direct violation of Galatians 1:6-8

    May just BE!

    I assert that time and time again the WTS and its reigning personality has had opportunity after opportunity to 'reform' but has chosen willfully to serve the other master, the one that caters to their human egos, ease of lifestyle and sense of entitlement after years of climbing the WTS ladder.

    Yes- that is why they have the mansions the fame and the income the Clergy often do! heh

    I assert the WTS has apostatized itself by becoming modern day Pharisees

    Fine! Jesus doesn't have to Judge; we have YOU doing it FOR him....heh

  • yesidid
    yesidid

    Partly covered by cantleave, but, where does it say elders should not have a beard?

    Where does it say women should not wear slacks to the meetings?

    y

  • theMadJW
    theMadJW

    Subject: Fw: Presby. Minister's Commentary on Bro. Russell

    Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:37:38 -0400

    An interesting and complimentary passage from a clergyman about C.T. Russell.

    "Where Else But Pittsburgh?" A book written by George Swetnam, an ordained

    Presbyterian minister, who wrote for years for the Pittsburgh Press

    newspaper, and is regarded as the foremost historian of the Pittsburgh and

    Western Pennsylvania areas...Interesting Excerpts from the book: "Where

    Else But Pittsburgh?"

    "It is an amazing thing that no Pittsburgh history has ever even so much as

    contained the name of C.T. Russell, since his influence has easily been the

    widest of any man who ever lived in the city... including Andrew Carnegie.

    He was a pioneer in the Chain store, the Motion Picture industry and

    other important ventures. He was one of the most prolific and widely read

    authors of his day, turning out many books and a column carried by more

    then 1500 newspapers, with some 15 million readers. Russell traveled over

    a million miles, delivering more than 30,000 sermons and lectures...

    "His parents were Reformed Presbyterians, a sturdy sect which refused to

    acknowledge any government except that of God, and who refused to pay

    taxes or take part in military service...

    He was always interested in religion, writing Bible verses on the sidewalks

    with chalk when a youth. As a boy he was quick & alert, so his father took

    him into partnership in his general store at the age of 11.

    When he was 15 he was sent out as a buyer.

    "Like many other youths Charles was troubled in mind. He battled over the

    doctrine of predestination and was pondering these things for while he was

    unable to accept religion he was unable to let it go. It was a successful

    but skeptical businessman of 18 that he stepped into a dingy basement to

    see if a handful who met there had anything more sensible than the creeds

    of the churches. What he heard set him searching the Bible again, which he

    did for 46 years!

    Soon he rented a hall & started a Bible School where for 5 years he

    lectured. Then, convinced he had a divine mission, he did a strange thing

    for a young man of 26 with no formal theological education. He invited ALL

    the ministers of Pittsburgh to a meeting, explained his beliefs and urged

    them to unite with him! The fact that they accepted his invitation shows

    how high young Russell stood in the community. Yet after hearing they

    declined his offers..

    "Rebuffed by the ministers in his home town Russell turned himself to a

    life of evangelism. He carried on his haberdashery business for some time

    but his interest in commerce gradually waned and he closed his store for

    the next year..

    Russell was nearly 6 feet tall, well built, with piercing gray eyes.

    His manner was always CALM, stressing argument rather then emotion,

    sometimes adding a touch of humor. In later life he was snowy haired,

    white bearded, and saintly in appearance..

    In 1914 he completed work on the first epic motion picture: "The Photo

    Drama of Creation" 15 years before any other sound pictures were produced.

    It ran for eight hours and was viewed by some eight million people!

    "Late in life he set up his entire fortune, by now amounting to well

    over a million dollars, into a trust fund for the W.T.B.& T Society, the

    business organization for Jehovah's Witnesses...

    "He made many close friends and bitter enemies. He was the target of

    many stories accusing him of all sorts of crimes and wrong doing in regard

    to his marriage, although there appears to be little if any basis for such

    charges...

    "All through his life Russell told his followers NOT to revere him; He

    taught them this so well that the publishing house he founded has never

    published a biography of "Pastor Russell"...

    " The movement he founded now has worldwide scope & is still one of the

    worlds fastest growing religions. In 1958 some 250,000 came to NYC to hear

    the same doctrines Russell preached to the unreceptive clergy 80 years

    earlier."

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    ANYONE striving to follow Christ will still fall short of HIS example; we ASPIRE to it, not claim to have REACHED it.

    With the Exception of the 144,000..

    The mediator for Jehovah`s Witness`s ..

    Is the WBT$..

    The WBT$ Fired Jesus..

    Jesus is out of a Job..

    Jehovah`s Witness`s..

    Aspire to do what ever the WBT$ says..

    Or..

    They`re Fired Too!..

    ..................... ...OUTLAW

  • theMadJW
    theMadJW

    Let me know if you would like ANOTHER report from an authority in the area....I have one more!

    (But of course your paid clergy know SO much better...) heh

  • theMadJW
    theMadJW

    "Partly covered by cantleave, but, where does it say elders should not have a beard?

    Where does it say women should not wear slacks to the meetings?"

    Every group choose its own standards of how to work together; Disneyworld doesn't allow beards OR mustaches....why?

    Slacks to the meeting, I agree! Stupid rule!

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