your all redefining prophets and prophecy so as to condemn Jws from youir own standpoint.
My reply: No Reniaa, the GB has redefined prophets and prophecy when it suits them. They have clearly called themselves prophets, as well as claiming to be God's sole channel of communication of truth to mankind. They have redefined the meanings when their statements failed to pass.
Was moses, david, appostles etc perfect in intepretation? these were all classed as prophets yet clearly at times made mistakes suffering from imperfection.
My reply: They were perfect in their prophecying. They did not publish and demand conformity to their own interpretations as the WT does. The WT is not on any level with Moses or the Apostles, although they have claimed to be both.
being a prophet is simply being a spokesperson of God chosen by him when you are a false prophet you are speaking something other than the message of the bible.
My reply: Exactly! And that is exactly what the WT has done- spoken something other than what is revealed in the Bible...spinning their own fables off of what is stated in the Bible- and this coming from what they term "God's channel"...
dates on ACTUAL bible prophecy are at worst just mistakes born of imperfection but when you start teaching a message that isn't in the bible like trinity or immortality of soul etc then you are a false prophet.
My reply: Not when you claim to be God's sole channel of communication and sanction those who disagree as though they are disagreeing with God. That is quite serious! The statements about trinity or soul are immaterial to this so stay relevant instead of trying to divert.
Inspired Prophecy was given at a specific time and has ended now.
1 Corinthians 13:8-10 (New International Version)
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
but we can still make imperfect mistakes but we also have the bible to correct us the problem comes when we teach a message that is not biblical.
if someone says 'God loves us so he won't mind (insert something the bible condemns here)' then they are deliberately teaching a false message.
My reply: That is exaclty what the WT does. They mention that although they have made these mistakes (serious mistakes) it was eagerness to see Christ's kingdom. You are right- that is no excuse. Many Christians are equally eager yet do not resort to date setting and flase prophecying.
dates on actual bible prophecies is foolishness although we are told to keep in readiness and continue to warn of Gods impending prophecies we have to treat them as if they will happen at any time. Dates are the same type of imperfection like the thessonians thinking Jesus was coming then too. but it's teaching a different message like the trinity does that is being a false prophet.
My reply: Nice try to divert off the weakness of your arguments onto the Trinity. The Thessolonians did not publish and demand that all must accept their teaching or else. The WT does.
Is armageddon a failed prophecy?
is Jesus coming a failed prophecy?
Is the destruction of false religion a false prophecy?
My reply: No. But the WT has spun false prophecies off of those. Attaching God's name to their fables.
You condemn Jws for making dates and it is something we are warned over but it is not false prophecy by bible standards.
My reply: Blindness prevents you from seeing Reniaa. The 1914 generation doctrine was called "the Creator's promise". The Creator did not promise a peaceful new world before the generation of 1914 died out. The Wt said he did. False prophecy!
Prophets are God's spokeperson's we have to decide which in these times are actually preaching the actual inspired bible message the false ones will be teaching their own which doesn't appear in the bible.
My reply: Try that in the WT org and report back to us what happens.
