My tactics are making inroads on my hardcore JW wife

by Awakened at Gilead 108 Replies latest members private

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  Awakened at Gilead

  Sacolton,

  She is allowed to get a "Biblically" sanctioned separation, not a divorce...

  ***w8811/1pp.20-25WhenMaritalPeaceIsThreatened***

  WhenMaritalPeaceIsThreatened

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  Absoluteendangermentof spirituality also provides a basis for separation. The believer in a religiously divided home should do everything possible to take advantage of God’s spiritual provisions. But separation is allowable if an unbelieving mate’s opposition (perhaps including physical restraint) makes it genuinely impossible to pursue true worship and actually imperils the believer’s spirituality. Yet, what if a very unhealthy spiritual state exists where both mates are believers? The elders should render assistance, but especially should the baptized husband work diligently to remedy the situation. Of course, if a baptized marriage partner acts like an apostate and tries to prevent his mate from serving Jehovah, the elders should handle matters according to the Scriptures. If disfellowshipping takes place in a case involving absolute endangerment of spirituality, willful nonsupport, or extreme physical abuse, the faithful Christian who seeks a legal separation would not be going against Paul’s counsel about taking a believer to court.—1 Corinthians 6:1-8.
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  Hope4Others

  I'm quite nicely surprised, I guess you know your wife best and what will work. It seems that you are being

  successful at this so far. God, I hope she has the time of her life on your planned outing.

  Cheers to you most definitely!

  Hope4others
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  still_in74

  Additionally, she is feeling weird when she is with other JWs. Whe she goes to meetings, other JWs are surprised she is still with me

  Awesome! We all know this feeling.... its the feeling of REAL "thinking" & "reasoning". It isnt independant thought yet but its the start. This is why the WTS discourages it so much.

  Its like a switch that goes off and nothing is the same anymore. Your understanding of the scriptures explodes because you take them for what they are. You no longer have to think what the current "light" is, you just understand.

  So when JW's use WTS Cult tactics and cult speak it just jumps out at you. You might not even understand why but it does. Its amazing

  Good for you Lance. Any chance of sending me that spreadsheet?
  I have actually recently put together AnnOmalys KISS method of 607 BCE together on a Word Doc that removes any apostate terms and only uses WTS Lit. - if you want to trade! hehe

  actually anyone can have it if they want.........
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  Satanus

  Congratulations. I guess it just needed a bit of time to penetrate. 3 months from the start of letting her know of your withdrawl is not very long for her to change so much, very quick, actually. Good going.
  
  S
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  insearchoftruth

  Wow, that is great A&G, I applaud you for your stance and methods!!!
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  Anti-Christ

  Anyway, I write this in case some feel that the direct hardline antiJW stance and the DA are not effective methods. In only 3 months my wife is beginning to seriously question the cult. I see this as a significant breakthrough. I know that not everyone will have this same result, and each one knows their own family, but there are advantages to my DA stance, especially the time factor. Fading takes a long time, and influencing the family while not leveling with them takes longer. I respect that everyone's circumstance is different. But this stance is working for me.

  Lance

  That's the point, only you know what's best, if it works keep it up. I started to do the same with my JW friends. I'm not Dfed or DAd but I let them know exactly how I feel and think, of course only if they ask for it.
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  Lady Zombie

  She is becoming aware of the cognitive dissonance the WTBTS purposely uses on JWs in order to keep them unsettled and dependent on them for all the answers.

  Good. One little seed of doubt can be all it takes sometimes!
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  M.J.

  Thanks for sharing. I guess some of us are just wimps :)
  
  But one other angle to this, and I'm speaking as a never-JW, is that YOU actually have a lot more credibility, "apostate" or not to take an informed stand against the WTS than the average never-JW UBM. Most like me get blindsided with their spouse signing up and their first reaction is to be completely blunt and opposed. The WTS primes spouses more for opposition from "worldy mates" than from their fellow JW mates.
  
  One other factor, I suspect, is your marriage. If the love you have runs deep enough, and your relationship is very solid, this increases the chance of success with the blunt approach, I imagine.
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  Quandry

  Whe she goes to meetings, other JWs are surprised she is still with me

  Wow!! Talk about heaping on the guilt....she must get very uncomfortable at meetings. To think that she is beginning to feel as though she is expected to leave you.....she should ask ones who say this if they are willing to support her...I think not.....
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  oompa

  Only one thing I am a little concerned about here AG......is if you wake up your wife......you HAVE to stay with her!!......that may not be a written down JWD rule, but it is to me. Unless of course many years go by and it happens. You guys have had discussions about splitting up for the past four years. If she wakes up....she will lose her entire social structure....if she loses you at the same time......well we know that would be rough. On the other hand, maybe leaving her in it sucks too.........just a thought if you get my drift...........oompa