Gasp! I have gotten to the end of this post. I have two words - cognative dissonace - I hope I have spelt that right, it looks wrong but I can't be arsed to fire up a spell checker or check a dictionary. I used to suffer from CD and filtered out anything that might upset my preferred view of the world. I know you will all be delighted to learn that I was cured some years ago. We all know that the main thrust of the pro 607BCE is to maintain the 1914 doctrine at all costs. Why? Because with no 1914 there would be no 1919 and hence no mandate from Jesus and the authority that the WTBTS holds over the JW's would evaporate. Can you imagine the emotional carnage that would result, not to mention the lawsuits. It is imperative that the status quo remains. Most JW's are not scholars and are happy to let the WTBTS do their thinking for them. How many eyes glaze over during the study of the 'Daniel' book and the other 'Prophecies explained' books. The answers are parrotted from the book as no-one has the brain power to do indepth study - maybe that is why the group meetings are held late evening when everyone is knackered and brain-dead from work and are happy to parrot. I was always glad that someone always wanted to answer the unanswerable double negative question. JW's are taught what their reaction to anything from Brooklyn will be. You only have to read their blurb to see that. I have a 1951 Clean Worship Assembly report that demonstrates this well: In an article of a talk headlined 'Thrilling Discourse by F W Franz', the talk was about Noah, flood wife and kids. The talk was entitled 'Baptism of Salvation and Fire Baptism' part of it said: '...special mention was made of Noah's wife. It was with joy that we heard how she pictured the bride of christ,...' This was, I imagine, one of those talks that brothers spoke about in hushed terms saying 'it was a very deep talk' which was accepto-speak for 'I haven't a clue what he was talking about but at least I am joyful at hearing it'. Whats all this got to do with the post in question I hear you ask. I shall tell you. We are all wasting our time and having our time wasted arguing with scholar and 3rd witness (who are probably one and the same as has already been alluded to). No amount of dialogue will do any good, there's none so blind as those who won't see as my grandmother used to say. And she was right. My mother used to say 'talking to him/her/them is like banging your head against a brick wall, it's nice when you stop' She was right too.