Why I'll never see 'Brokeback Mountain'

by yaddayadda 98 Replies latest jw friends

  • undercover
    undercover
    inserts gratuitous boob flash for the heteros:

    I'll ride herd on them anyday...

    (hangs on to saddlehorn for the ride)

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Hi Mulan,

    I wish you would reconsider. there are no explicit gay sex scenes, there is one explicit heterosexual sex scene, but the story is about love and the pain of love and the fact that two masculine country men can experience it.

    Lily

    The movie you refer to is Making Love, 1982, Starring Harry Hamlin and Michael Ontkean. Great Movie. I had a huge crush on Michael Ontkeon at the time. I had earlier seen a movie called Slap Shot where you get to see his butt.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    gay people don't put straight people down or refuse to go see movies about them, or root for them to succeed in marriage and with their kids even though all these things are totally foreign to our experience as humans. we don't mind you being who you are and being happy, even while at the same time many of you don't hope the same for us.

    JoelBare: This is so not true! Lookit how much $$ BBMountain is making! Do you think that is all gay $$? NO! I refuse to go see many movies - most of them star Sylvester Stallone or Arnold Schwarzenegger - two notoriously hetersexual actors! So there! And I want gay people to be happy, I really do.

  • Mulan
    Mulan
    I wish you would reconsider. there are no explicit gay sex scenes, there is one explicit heterosexual sex scene, but the story is about love and the pain of love and the fact that two masculine country men can experience it.

    Okay, Joel. You've almost convinced me, and I just finished reading the other posts. When it comes on HBO, for free, I will give it a go. I guess I was misinformed about the content.

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    its an important movie about understanding a very specific phenomenon in our lifetime. men who are on the cusp because they act, seem and feel masculine but are sexually drawn to men. a large number of them marry and this is what happens to some of them. maybe it means a lot to me because i have seen it happen several times in real life.

    i was grateful it was not turned into soft porn. there is plenty of gay porn in the world.

    it allows you to concentrate on what is happening in the men's hearts.

  • joelbear
    joelbear

    Bizzy,

    note that I said many of you, not all of you.

    and my name is not Joelbare, at least not on this board.

  • Rabbit
    Rabbit

    Tall TexanTrue. However, if someone says, as yaddayadda said when he started the thread, that they didn't care for it's subject matter, THAT person is not allowed to 'live and let live'. He's suddenly 'secretly gay', a bigot, etc because he doesn't care for homosexuality. Is that not forcing someone else to conform to your beliefs? Why should he be subject to ridicule simply because of his views, whereas the people supporting the film view one as 'narrow-minded' or a closet homosexual if that person doesn't agree with them. Most X-JW's should also understand the inherent wrong with establishing a double standard.

    Well, please don't put me in that group saying he's 'secretly gay'. I don't know him & it's none of my business just what his thoughts are in the privacy of his own head...or bedroom.

    A point (an actual fact) was being being made tho'...about the 'arousal' studies of men who ID'd themselves as homophobic. Many people are afraid of being labeled 'homo-lover' simply by not 'joining in' on denigrating jokes or comments...so they go on the offense to seem as tho' they are 'with the group think.'

    This is simply a human trait...and not a pretty one. The same sort of thing happens with politics, ethnics, nationalism and of course -- religion. It is bigotry. On this subject, I''ve seen it from both 'sides'...people accusing some certain person of being 'secretly gay' is just as wrong, as others are when they refuse to acknowledge even the possibility -- that gay people are natural people. That they know themselves, a little bit better, than anyone else can.

    Ask any heterosexual person..."How do you know you aren't gay ?" The answer, will be an indignant, "Cause I KNOW I'm not!" Right ?

    So, if you ask a homosexual the same question (insert Hetero, of course) WHY... cannot most people just say, "OK." ?? Why can't they just accept their word on the subject. Do we have to understand ? Not in my opinion, "Live & let live", works better for me. (Now)

    SluggaSomewhere in a parallel universe where society and the media are about 30 years behind ours theres a board very much like this one and on that board is a post called "Why I'll never see 'Roots' " Signed off by someone "proud to be a Klans man"...

    Insert [applause] here! The problem I have with Yadda's post topic is simply that it was an unprovoked attack by someone who 'knows themselves better than anyone', he says he is "homophobic". So I agree with him. The fact that he's "proud", to me is sadly blind to human understanding and empathy.

    Pod Glad you liked my 'crazy' smiley, I picked it up 'across the street.'

    Rabbit

  • deeskis
    deeskis
    Me too. I'm a hepatophobe and proud. The smell, taste and texture of liver are absolutely disgusting. It's unnatural. The liver is an organ for processing toxins, not a food. It produces bile, for gods' sake! Is that the sort of thing you want to put in your mouth, much less chew and swallow?

    I get you......

    how about a liver transplant, .............. or a blood transfusion.........

    D of the I just love "to stir" class

  • FairMind
    FairMind

    Wasn't this movie originally titled "Bareback Mounting"?

  • troucul
    troucul

    queers are fine as long as they stay in the closet.

    when you have a gay guy who sexually harasses you and takes a picture of your wife and kids and stuffs it down his pants, I think you'd feel the same way too.

    that jerk pissed me off

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