scholar
Many of the nutters on this board responding do not speak from personal experience and have not had victims close to them but are simply jumping on the apostate circus with evil intent.
scholar if you had read carefully, many of the posters on this thread have been victims themselves. They have every right to have their say.
That being said I do find the one-on-one a better and more direct approach at times.
Whether it is in right way is a matter for them and not for you or I, it is their business and responsibility and they have work under the Lord's direction. As a result of this firm and loving stewardship the congregations of the Lord;s sheep world wide are known internationally as a clean and moral people.
We are getting into territiory where we will not agree. The governing body which has set themselves as the sole mouthpiece of God seems to provide "firm and loving stewardship" to the pedophiles rather than the children. Christ himself said not to prevent the children from coming to him. The WTS however stands like the apostles did between the children and the Christ in their attempt to hinder them from approaching Christ. And Christ rightly rebuked them.
Lord;s sheep world wide are known internationally as a clean and moral people.
This is applicable only to JWs. Thje rest of the world sees the hypocracy or really don't care one way or another. Some how the org known as Jehovahs' Witnesses are a legend only in their own minds.
You say or claim that Society fail to act. How do you know this to be a fact? Or are simply interpreting matters according to your own dictates or eleying upon outside opposing influences?
Oops You are right. Sorry. They do act. They act to protect the abusers and their own name. They do nothing positive, loving or helpful for the victims. This was my personal experience, the personal experience of my aunt and my sister. It was also the experience of many who have posted here. I have absolutely no reason to doubt the veracity of their histories. As one who has been there and knows about this issue personally and professionally I know the ring of truth when I hear it.
Apostates do indeed strive to craft and construct propaganda mischievously designed to befall the ignorant, weak ones who are easily stumbled.
scholar. There is no reason to "craft and construct propaganda" The WTS provides enough information to show what they truly are all by themself without us creating it. It is not propaganda to tell the truth. It is not propaganda to show the WTS true self. In fact even the WTS themselves recognize just how foolish most of their teachings have been that they put it into a legal document designed to get Quotes to remove his website off the internet. I had to shake my head that they actually admitted that much.
This characteristic of apostasy is not new but was practiced in the early church of the first century and prospered right up to the present. A careful academic study of apostate literature covering wide-ranging fields is of special interest to me as a scholar of Religious Studies so I speak with experience and considerable knowledge. The presence of apostasy as a evil slave confirms the existence of a faithful slave at this time doing the Lord's work in accordance with the Master's directions. Such apostasy confirms that only Jehovah's Witnesses represent the true God used by him to announce the present reign of the Kingdom.
I will never ever be convinced of that.
In regard to Raymond Franz perhaps you read in entirety what he has said about the matter and your view of such matters is not what I have read but that does not mean that he has not now presently changed his mind.
But then that does not mean that he has not now presently changed his mind
You list some gripes about Rutherford, the Blood issue, and alleged forms of abuse but I reject totally such nonsense for what you are seeking is unreality, the impossible. God's orgainzation on earth by very definition must be imperfect, sometimes foolish and prone to error but what other organization can and does the Lord use to feed his people spiritually, loyal to God's Word, promote the highest moral code of ethics and preach the Gospel none other but Jehovah's Witnesses clear evidence of the fact that they alone are the people of faith and of God.
OK this really gets me. If God's orgainzation on earth by very definition must be imperfect, sometimes foolish and prone to error then how can you say at the same time they are imperfect but you must believe every word they say.
what other organization can and does the Lord use to feed his people spiritually, loyal to God's Word, promote the highest moral code of ethics and preach the Gospel none other but Jehovah's Witnesses clear evidence of the fact that they alone are the people of faith and of God
Propaganda at its best. NO one except a JW would fall for this. I know some very wonderful, kind, generous, moral people are not JWs. JWs have been taught they are the ONLY ones. Well they aren't. To condemn people just because they are not JWs is exactly what Christ warned the scribes and pharisees about. I think the term he used was "white'washed graves" It is my belief that this best identifies the WTS today.
When bad and trajic things occur to us which is our lot then we seek help, turn to God and simply move forward onward with our lives being scarred for all to see. That is reality until the New System comes wiping away such scars and the blemish or stain of sin.
I tried that for years. It doesn't work. It has never worked. Not for the hundreds of people I have worked with and spoken to and not for any person who has posted here. Moving forward takes much more than prayer. And sitting waiting for God to fix it - well I have 2 dead family members. That certainly didn't work for them.
Apostates have as their sole aim not to help people out of concern or love otherwise they would be preaching a better Gospel which in fact they lack, their concern is to hinder and obstruct the holy work of the good news. They do Satan's bidding by casting lies against God's people and using at every opportunity lies , half-truths and quaint deception. Their evil works are clearly manifest even to scholars of Religion.
Have you personally asked anyone why they speak out about abuse? I have. If you have read any of their stories you can plainly see that exposing so much of our past is not to sling mud at the WTS. It is not to get pity. People share their stories because they hope that it will help at least one person and show them they do not have to live filled with the pain that we have.
I repeat, the real cause for abuse needs to exposed and people educated so that they can lead full, happy and spiritual lives and this is what we do. We help people.
And sir that is what I do at every opportunity. Every single day.
