Nothing about guns in all of that, BizzyBee.
Guns are none of the business of the CDC.
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EntirelyPossible
It's you who failed to rebut the characterization of your comment as a false analogy, which it was and is.
It was in no way false. You said you didn't want to pay taxes for other person's security. That involves more than just armed guards in schools. The question is whether or not you are willing to remove yourself from the tax burden of other citizens by voluntarily removing yourself from all protections you receive from the state.
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BizzyBee
Guns are none of the business of the CDC.
Apparently they are. You may not like it, but that's TFB.
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144001
<<<< It was in no way false. You said you didn't want to pay taxes for other person's security.>>>>
Lying to support your argument does not make it more credible, or more meritorious. I have never made the statement you falsely accuse me of. Moreover, you still have not rebutted the charaterization of your fallacious reasoning as a false analogy.
Lies and foolish arguments are not going to prevent the implementation of gun control measures, EP. A wise gun rights advocate would concede the obvious and look for ways to minimize the impact of gun control measures on responsible gun owners.
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EntirelyPossible
Lying to support your argument does not make it more credible.
Agreed. So maybe you should remember you own argument since I can quote it. You wrote: I have the same right to have my children in a school that does not have armed guards, and I also do not want to pay higher taxes to make you feel safe.
So, the question is, will you remove yourself from the tax burden by refusing to use all of those things that make you safe?
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144001
EP,
It's pretty lame that you seek to support your arguments with dishonest statements. This time, you quote only part of my post. Let's see the whole thing:
<<<< In my mind, I have the same rights to have my children protected regardless of the risk you seem to think is small enough not to need the added protection of a armed officer, or more.>>>>
I have the same right to have my children in a school that does not have armed guards, and I also do not want to pay higher taxes to make you feel safe.
Only an idiot would fail to realize that my comment regarding "making you feel safe" was directed at the proposal to put armed guards in schools. But you're no idiot, you're simply dishonest, as evidenced by your failure to include the entire quote. It's stupid, dishonest arguments like the one you're making with me that will serve to support the move to restrict gun rights. Wake up and smell the coffee, EP. The gun control movement is gaining momentum, and idiotic arguments, such as the one you're making here, facilitate their progress.
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EntirelyPossible
Only an idiot would fail to realize that my comment regarding "making you feel safe" was directed at the proposal to put armed guards in schools.
Oh, I realize that, but safety is not limited to the narrow scope YOU want it be. That's EXACTLY my point. Simplistic and silly statements like this that are divorced from reality allow reasonable people to dismiss you as not knowing what you are talking about.
It's stupid, dishonest arguments like the one you're making with me that will serve to support the move to restrict gun rights. Wake up and smell the coffee, EP. The gun control movement is gaining momentum, and idiotic arguments, such as the one you're making here, facilitate their progress.
Pointless emotional arguments are what I have been on about with people wanting to ban high capacity magazines. Someone on "my" side is no better. When you make arguments from emotion, they are easily dismantled in the light of reality and the process of thinking things through. You may call it idiotic, that is withing your right to resort to name calling if that's the only way you feel like you can win an argument, but you are no better that people that scream for banning guns because you are bringing nothing to the table that is actionable or thought out.
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wasblind
Those reasonable folks exist and are drowned out by the shouting nuts on both ends. If only one side has shouting nuts, they will win. Neither set of nuts from either side should win________EP
We still talkin' guns ain't we ?????
The only way to Castrate those nuts is wit' good sense I couldn't help myself EP
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144001
Sorry, EP, but your dishonesty is now documented on this forum for all to see. You are now admitting that you knew I didn't communicate what you accused me of, yet you falsely represented my statements anyway.
Dishonesty is apparently the only weapon in your intellectual arsenal. I have no desire to debate with someone who intentionally lies about what I say and then attacks his own lies. You win, EP! I have no further comments to you on this subject.
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EntirelyPossible
That's not all what I said. If you can't have ad adult conversation without calling names to make yourself feel better, I suppose there really isn't a point in talking. The reasonable adult conversation will carry on without you. Plus, I already knew I won.
Good day to you.