wallievase
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3rd Update on Fading
by wallievase inok well i have updated you about the dilemma about my wife and family and more recently about the elders trying to schedule a shepherding call.. on our way back from th international convention she basically told me if i were to leave that we should go our seperate ways.. so i took a few days and thought about it.
it seems she was more mad about my waffling back and forth and going to the hall sometimes and just not making up my mind.. today i gave her a proposal- i will stop going all together unless it it an assembly or convention or memorial for her.. we will not discuss religious topics, as this is where most of our arguments have been centered around, at all.. we will support all of each others endeavors besides religious intrests.
i will talk to my family and let them know my intentions without getting into an details next month because my mother keeps calling me about it.
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Update on Fading Question
by wallievase inthe other day i posted my delimma about dealing with family and leaving.. update: my wife came home from the hall sunday (i have now missed about 3 weeks in a row) and the elders now want to schedule a sheperding call.. should i just blow them off, or when they come over (because im sure my wife will have them over even if i decline) just tell them i cant do it right now?.
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Advice on fading needed
by wallievase inthese 2 options are before me right now-.
1. write a letter to the elders and my family, not da myself but basically saying i have too much going on in my life and am confused, so that they will stop bothering my wife and stop asking me questions all the time.
after i write the letter continue to go to the hall less and less.... 2. appease my wife.
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Better than God?
by wallievase ini still go to the hall for my wife's sake.
so i was reading the weekly bible reading and came across the great example of abraham.. abraham was always questioning jehovah/god- will you destroy the city if it has this many faithful ones... and this week in genesis 15- he asks what are you going to give me for an inheritance and later- how do i know these things are going to happen... i bring up this up to say- if the almighty god of the universe doesnt expect unquestioning obedience and blind faith, how does the gb or elders?
are they thinking they are above questions when god doesnt consider himself above questioning?
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Why the 2014 yearbook is the most hypocritical book out now.
by wallievase inthe supposed reason the yearbook is published is to encourage the friends with experiences and seeing growth by numbers.
if that is the case, why not emphasize that more people than ever are partaking at the memorial showing more people supposedly being accepted to heaven which should be great news?
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Witness Hypocrisy
by wallievase inif you follow the bible and the bible says to love all, how in the convention letter about special needs can a person be disqualified from receiving help if they arent in good standing?
what does that have to do with attending a convention?.
you are supposedly following the 1st century model- why dont the c.o.s work like paul did?.
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Finished Crisis of Conscience Recently
by wallievase inwell i finally got around to finishing crisis of conscience.
2 things stood out to me most.. 1. the fact that the gb can question beliefs and noone else can.. 2. strangly the most disturbing fact- its a small one- but actually made the biggest impression on me out of the whole book-.
the fact that they agreed to send him a copy of his meeting tapes and then refused and admitted in writing that they lied.. obviously there was much more that i got from it and i do find franz situation unique in that he had a whole support system outside of the "truth" and most today including myself have nothing- if i leave my wife hates me, my family wont talk to me, etc- it doesnt provide any solution for that scenario.. any thoughts on the above points- let me know.
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disfellowshipping untruths
by wallievase inif the whole disfellowshipping arrangement is from the bible, where are the scriptures that say you can appeal decisions or that if you are reproved what 'privileges' can be taken away?
or what about the fact that any offense they want can be lumped under uncleanness and used to kick you out?.
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preaching is not the priority
by wallievase inif preaching and reaching everyone was really the goal, why not shut down all bethels and kingdom halls, stop people from wasting time building those complexes and printing literature and just have everyone use just the bible and just meet in homes?
they would have more time to preach and heck more money from bot supporting all these random projects so everyone could work less too..
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witnesses do not have biblical precedents for actions
by wallievase incases i was thinking about today- the printing of literature for mass distribution and further the existence of bethel and branch complexes world wide along with kingdom halls(early christians just met in homes).
if you say you follow the bible, how do you create things like this that have no precedent in the bible?
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