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  2/10/20 20 hindsight: the wt fiction fig tree

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this week's, 2-10- 2020 jesus lesson 103, parables of the fig tree, prematurely spreading leafs, cursed because of raising false expectations.

  what a perfectly fitting facsimile for the fruitless fiction that the wt corporation has produced during "christ's presence" .

  !8xy, 1914, 1925, 1975, 2000, 2075. by their [prophetic] fruits you will know them, or the figurative fig leafs, not even covering the bare wt facts.

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  What the watchtower got something wrong? Go fig---ure!

  just saying!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Mega Halls

  by RolRod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about this recently.

  the society owns all the kingdom halls and with desperate need of money, their closing down and selling off properties.

  consolidating congregations seems to be the order of the day.

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  If the governing body can be convinced the 'Mega Halls' and televangelism is a financially sound option, you can bet your sweet ass that they would receive "new light" from jehober and ...........................!

  just saying!
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  How Many Here Remember Hearing Details from the Platform on Why a Person was Reproved or DF'd ???

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.

  at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.

  the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.

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  I was an "elder" during the 70's, 72-79 and as I recall, announcing the reason for a person's df'ing stopped in about 75---same year as Armageddon!

  just saying!
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  Allowed?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jobo i know has cancer.

  her son goes and cleans her house and generally cares for her.

  so does another non-jobo relative.. the congregation, interestingly, has shown very little support apart from the odd one rabbiting on about 'bible promises this and that'.. so, the co visited and said, 'but your son is an apostate(tm).

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  If the wt's gb received "new light" and now suddenly jw's could 'count their time' that they spend helping the elderly, the infirm, and the dying, you can bet your sweet ass that the elderly, the infirm, and the dying would be smothered in "attention and care" from their "loving" brotherhood!

  just saying!
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  If you're "anointed" don't seek out other "anointed" so says the Watchtower January 2020

  by RolRod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was affiliated with the witnesses, there were barely 6,000 who profess to be of the anointed remnant.

  i recently read somewhere that today there are over 20,000 who profess to be anointed.

  that figure may be more when you consider those who meet and partake privately for fear of the stigma of claiming to be anointed.

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  Anointed Christians do not feel that they should spend time only with other anointed ones, as if they were members of an exclusive club.

  WTF! For 8-9 decades the wt has taught that the "holy brothers of christ" are very much a part of an 'exclusive group'. After all, there's only 144,000 of them (lol) and aren't they going to heaven to be in the presence of jehober and jesus rule over us? That's pretty fu*king exclusive if you consider the billions that are supposed to be in the 'new world'!

  just saying!
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  The future of the Watchtower Society

  by mickygrey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left way back in 2002, seems a long time ago now and i haven't really kept up with any developments since.. i've kept one ear open and noticed recently there is talk of the wt being investigated over the sex abuse cover ups, but over the years this story has come in and out of the news.. what is everybody's predictions as to the future of the borg?

  i know what most people want to happen, but realistically, are we just looking at certain elements being hit because of the restructuring they did a few years ago to protect from this very thing?

  looking further ahead, you'd like to think that more people would wake up?

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  The future of the wt society is quite bright----you know all the "new light" is quite bright! lol

  just saying!
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  Pennsylvania Attorney General investigating WT for child abuse coverups

  by krismalone in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/02/08/jehovahs-witnesses-under-investigation-pennsylvania-attorney-generals-office/2425260001/.

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  U.S.

  Jehovah's Witnesses reportedly under investigation by Pennsylvania attorney general

  Marisa Kwiatkowski, USA TODAY

  USA TODAYFebruary 8, 2020, 10:37 AM PST

  The Pennsylvania attorney general's office reportedly is investigating whether the Jehovah's Witnesses repeatedly failed to report child sexual abuse allegations to authorities in what is believed to be the first wide-scale examination by a U.S. law enforcement agency.

  The attorney general's office told USA TODAY it "cannot confirm or deny the existence of investigations."

  But Mark O'Donnell, a former Jehovah's Witness who left the religion when he was 46, said the Pennsylvania attorney general's office interviewed him last summer at his home in Baltimore. Then he was subpoenaed to testify before a statewide investigating grand jury in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

  O'Donnell provided USA TODAY a copy of his subpoena.

  

  A copy of the subpoena Mark O'Donnell said he received from the statewide investigating grand jury.

  O'Donnell said he first testified before the grand jury for more than two hours on Aug. 22 about his experiences as a Jehovah’s Witness and the structure of the governing body and congregation.

  A former Jehovah's Witness elder testified next, O'Donnell said. O'Donnell said he testified again in December. He also outlined the chain of events in a new post he wrote Saturday for JW Survey, a website critical of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

  O'Donnell said he doesn't want to destroy anyone's faith; He wants transparency.

  "Witnesses believe that they’re obeying God, that they’re putting God’s law ahead of man's law," he said. "And the reality is that they’re harming people."

  Nov. 2018: Jehovah's Witnesses culture shrouds child sexual abuse in Pennsylvania

  The Jehovah's Witnesses U.S. Branch in WallKill, New York, provided a statement to USA TODAY, saying the organization "care(s) deeply about children" and always tries to follow the law.

  "Any suggestion that Jehovah’s Witnesses foster or enable abuse is false," the statement continued. "We welcome an opportunity to explain our beliefs and practices to government officials and look forward to any recommendations they may have as we continue to focus on educating and equipping parents to protect their children from the horrible crime of abuse."

  Lawsuits filed across the country since the 1990s have accused the Jehovah's Witnesses and their legal corporations — including the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc. — of failing to report child abuse.

  In 2018, a Montana jury awarded $35 million to Alexis Nunez, who said she was sexually abused for years by a member of the Thompson Falls Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Two others told elders in 2004 that they had been abused by the same man, according to court records, but the elders never reported it to authorities.

  The elders expelled the abuser from the congregation but then reinstated him, court records state. The man continued to abuse Nunez until 2007, according to the lawsuit.

  The defense argued in court records that the elders were exempt from Montana's mandatory child abuse reporting law because of an exception that allows clergy members to keep certain communications confidential.

  The Jehovah's Witnesses appealed the case. Last month, the Montana Supreme Court ruled in the organization's favor, finding that the lower court erred when it said Jehovah's Witnesses had a duty to report. In its opinion, the court said the Jehovah's Witnesses were exempt.

  That was not the first time the organization argued it has no duty to report suspected abuse.

  

  A sign marks the entrance of the Jehovah's Witness world headquarters in Tuxedo Park, New York.

  In 2014, the state of Delaware sued a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and two elders, accusing them of failing to report child sexual abuse to authorities. A female member of their congregation had raped a teenage boy, according to the Delaware Sex Offender Central Registry.

  The Jehovah's Witnesses and elders initially argued they were exempt from Delaware’s child abuse reporting law. They later reached a settlement with state officials, agreeing to pay $19,500 to the Delaware Department of Justice, participate in child abuse prevention training and report such allegations to authorities, court records show.

  New York's Child Victims Act: Boy Scouts, Catholic Church, more face new lawsuits as window to sue opens

  

  Heather Steele sued several Jehovah's Witnesses entities in New York, claiming church leaders in 1982 tried to discourage her family from cooperating with a criminal investigation into an elder who had been molesting her for eight years.More

  In August, Heather Steele sued several Jehovah's Witnesses entities in New York, claiming religious leaders in 1982 tried to discourage her family from cooperating with a criminal investigation there into an elder who had been molesting her for eight years. According to the lawsuit, the sexual abuse began when she was 2.

  Steele worked with law enforcement anyway. Her abuser, Donald Nicholson, was convicted of sexual abuse and served 3 1/2 years in prison in New York, according to Department of Corrections and Community Supervision records. When he was released, Nicholson moved to New Jersey where, according to the lawsuit, he was reinstated as a Jehovah's Witness.

  The scope of the Pennsylvania attorney general's office's investigation into the Jehovah's Witnesses is unclear.

  But the office has significant experience investigating sexual abuse at religious organizations. In 2018, it released a report that detailed findings of a statewide investigative grand jury that had spent two years examining the Catholic Church's handling of child sexual abuse allegations.

  The jury identified 301 "predator priests" and found that "senior church officials, including bishops, monsignors and others, knew about the abuse committed by priests but routinely covered it up to avoid scandal, criminal charges against priests, and monetary damages to the dioceses," according to the release.

  The grand jury found that most of the allegations were now too old to be prosecuted. But some individuals did face criminal charges.

  The attorney general's office charged the Rev. John Sweeney with sexually abusing a 10-year-old boy in the early 1990s. Sweeney pleaded guilty last year to indecent assault, court records show. He is currently in prison.

  The Rev. David Poulson faced myriad charges, including corruption of minors and endangering the welfare of children, for repeatedly sexually assaulting one boy and attempting to assault another, according to court records and a release from the attorney general's office. Poulson pleaded guilty and was sentenced to up to 14 years in prison.

  O'Donnell said when people speak out about their experiences, it becomes easier for others to share their stories.

  "It takes a few people that are willing to come forward and do the right thing in order to get the ball rolling," he said, "and to provide sort of a safe landing place for those people who are suffering because of what an organization did."

  Marisa Kwiatkowski is a reporter on the USA TODAY investigations team, focusing primarily on children and social services. Contact her at [email protected], @IndyMarisaK or by phone, Signal or WhatsApp at (317) 207-2855.

  This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Jehovah's Witnesses face Pennsylvania grand jury investigation
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  Why do TV networks keep "bleeping" out Trumps comments and statement?

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't understand it.

  we have a president who is typically considered a model for what young people want to be when they grow up.

  yet, when trump talks, the tv networks keep bleeping out so many of his words, even on fox news.. why?

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  After leaving the wt because of enduring decades of lies, intimidation, manipulation, and veiled fear, I cannot understand why anyone would listen to tRump speak. He's like a gb member boasting about how wonderful his administration is and what wonderful accomplishments they have brought about. He never does anything wrong so we all just need to "adjust our thinking". He's the new "Teflon Don", the great American gangster president!

  just saying!
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  Iowa Democratic Caucus - Just WOW

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  there was a babylon bee or onion spoof article a few weeks back claiming the democrats would lose their own caucus and ... well, they managed to do it for real.. apparently they can't count their own votes, their app and process is now steeped in corruption (created by a company called 'shadow' that has taken money from multiple candidates as well as the dnc and has links to clinton) and multiple candidates have declared themselves the winner.

  biden has apparently done so badly that he's going to court to block the results being announced.

  no estimate of when they will be released even.. how do they come up with this ... and what does it mean for the election results where they oversee the counts?.

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  Simon, why are you so pro-trump?

  just wondering?
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  Why do TV networks keep "bleeping" out Trumps comments and statement?

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't understand it.

  we have a president who is typically considered a model for what young people want to be when they grow up.

  yet, when trump talks, the tv networks keep bleeping out so many of his words, even on fox news.. why?

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  Could it be that they just have a small thread of decency and despicable humans get bleeped?

  just saying!