Topics Started by Gig
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Please help on quotes
by Gig ini remember reading a wt quote that says something about finding footprints that wander all over and don't seem to be heading in any particular direction...and asks would you follow.
can any of you help me find this one and any/all others where the wt condemns their own course.
those that ridicule false teachings and mistakes/corrections of other religions that they themselves have done.. and secondly, any/all pure lies that are quick and easy for anyone to see.
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A day in the life of the WTS
by Gig instill i try to find a way to talk with my jw friend about the wts.
pretty much every conversation, at least so far, has ended similarly...with my friend falling back on "classic" wt defenses.
one of which i single out today...the insistence that they are the one true religion because they are the only ones who go "house to house".
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why,why,WHY????
by Utopian_Raindrops inok it is 4 am and i have not gone to bed so i wont be checking this thread till way later.
still i have a question.........maybe someone can answer it for me.. .
do so many christians believe that anyone who does not believe as they do will burn in hell?.
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Why can't you see it?
by Gig init's very hard trying to help a jw see the truth, and just as hard it seems to describe that difficulty.
how about this, you all remember those computer generated images that, at a glance, looked like a random set of dots or colors, no patterns or pictures.
you had to get your eyes to focus differently and adjust to the "hidden" image.
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Please offer your thoughts...
by Gig inmore than once in my meetings/studies with jw's they have called attention to daniel 11:35.... "some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.
" (niv).
i'm sure you can see how the jw's use this verse, and to keep the table open i'll withold my perspective, but please offer your thoughts.
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Apostates getting smarter?
by freedom96 inback before the internet, jw's who left, either df'd or da'd had nothing to rely on.
they didn't have the communication with others, nor did they have access that they now have with the internet.
now, anyone can log on, even jw's, and see sites like this one, that talk about the real truth.
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Deceptions That Do Not Lead To Everlasting Life
by Defender insatan deceived the first woman in eden by questioning the integrity and truthfulness of god with words like: is it really so that god said you must not eat from every tree of the garden?
and when eve responded in the negative and the warning of death if she eats from or touches the tree in the middle of garden, satan replied: you positively will not die.
for god knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like god, knowing good and bad.
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The WBTS is NOT "God's Organisation"!
by SpannerintheWorks indoes " god " make mistakes?
does the wbts make mistakes?
this is the wbts excuse:.
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Almost a copy?
by Gig indo i understand correctly that the wts secured the copyright to jb rotherham's bible translation and that is what they copied for their nwt?
franz knew some hebrew, and some greek, but in my guesstimation nowhere near enough to produce the nwt.
so is this where it basically came from... copied then changed to include their doctrinally biased alterations?.
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Competitive Holy Spirit
by Gig ini just read david reed's "whither the watchtower", written in...umm, about 93 i think, about the necessary changes the wts faced at the time.
it's a good read if you haven't already.. i wanted to ask all of you which of their major teachings will be the next to change.
go ahead and play prophet, nobody will hold you to it, at least not like we're going to hold the wts to it.. i'm thinking the 144,000 (1935) or jesus as michael.