I wasn't shocked by it but I am shocked by people over reacting to it.
Rattigan350
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Who Was Shocked By the Watchtower UN NGO Scandal?
by AlanF in.
i'd like to get comments from people about whether and how much they were shocked, surprised, or otherwise bothered by the watchtower society's becoming an associated non-governmental organization (ngo).. note that i'd like to see these comments because they might lead to some interesting publicity, so please comment accordingly.. alanf
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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On
by MrFreeze ini'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.
i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.
i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.
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Rattigan350
I was carrying the microphones and my collar was too tight to button. I was counseled about not having my shirt collar buttoned.
I was doing the count and I was counseled for walking up too far to see people as it distracts them.
There was a sister that I liked and I worked with at a Quickbuild. I had sent her a letter or a card. She sent back saying 'thanks but no thanks, let's stay frends'. Which was fine, her prerogative. But then my congregation's elder talked to me about being careful with the sisters. Well, she could do alot worse then me, a pioneer and a servant. Infact, she married someone from the world and then got divorced.
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Rattigan350
That could be made with many texts such as:
Wear a head covering.
Don't play lottery.
Don't use recreational or medicial pot.
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get from 1914 to 1919?
by God_Delusion inhi guys and gals,.
i have written an article that explains how the watchtower society gets from 607 bce to 1914 (http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/faqs/why-is-1914-important/) but i need some input so that i can write an article on how they get from 1914 to (via 1918) 1919.. are we talking about ezra, 1:2-4 when the persian king cyrus allows the israelites to go and rebuild the temple 3 and a half years after exiling them?
if so, how has the watchtower used this passage to get to 1919??.
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Rattigan350
Wow, everyone is quoting texts and texts of publications. Why?
It is simply this:
1919 is all about the Cedar Point Assembly and post board of directors release from prison. That signaled their release from Babylonian captivity and the renewed vigor to preach and advertise the King and the Kingdom.
It is about them and not Bible prophesy fulfilling or chronology.
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Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous
by Apognophos intoday's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.
having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.
1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).
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Rattigan350
It is history. It does not matter. They are so caught up in Bible land.
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Highlights from the Circuit Assembly!!
by DATA-DOG ingod's word is beneficial ca:.
full time service:.
there are sound reasons for pioneering.. 1) it's the most satisfying work there is.. 2) you cooperate even more fully with the angels and the anointed [ which equals the gb/fds, not sister old mcsingletilldeath.].
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Rattigan350
A strange teaching was the demonstration of a bible student telling the teacher that she got rid of all false religious things except a solid gold cross her mother gave her for sentimentality reasons. The scripture in Acts was read about them burning their books regardless of the costs. Then she said she would destroy the cross.
Destroy it? Why not sell it to those gold buying places that melt it down?
They resort to the default of Bible scriptures rather than doing the intelligent thing.
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The JEWS did not believe in a heavenly paradise...
by DATA-DOG inthat's what a speaker at the kh said.
he also said that "paradise" in the bible is always earthly.
i have reviewed jwfacts again here:.
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Rattigan350
Of course Jews did not believe in the heavenly resurrection. It was not taught until Jesus taught the kingdom of the heavens. Where would they get it from?
They had an earthly kingdom, an earthly king, earthly priests, earthly sacrifices. That was sufficient for them. But they had a promise to be a kingdom and priests.
Jesus introduced a new way. A kingdom in heavenly Jerusalem, with him as king and it was later shown that there would be 144,000 Israelites of the spirit would would join him. That had to be new otherwise what would the purpose for Jesus be?
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Proof the anointed aren't being resurrected yet.....
by EndofMysteries inthe society teaches that since around 1919 the anointed who have died and do die, are resurrected as spirit creatures.
the only one to be resurrected as a spirit that is documented in the bible is jesus.
when jesus was resurrected, did he appear to his disciples yet his body was still buried?
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Rattigan350
1914 as the enthronement of Jesus is sound. 2520 years, or 7 times after the kings in the line of David lost their sovereignty, not the destruction of Jerusalem. People may pick apart parts of it, but when they look at it overall, it is sound.
As for the trumpets, and bowls - the stuff in Revelation is speculation and too much focusing on them. As well as the two witnesses applying to the ones that went to prison. But then I don't have a problem with that. Back then it was an 'us vs them(false religon)' issue, which was cool. Looking at the ministry that way was fun. Now it is an 'us vs us' issue which is the problem with the religion.
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I may not be able to hold the status quo for longer!
by ILoveTTATT intoday my mom called me three times at work to tell me how "worried" she was about my spirituality.. i so wanted to tell her some ttatt but just said, "mom, i am fine spiritually.
if i am ever in trouble spiritually, i will tell you.
meanwhile, i would really appreciate it if you left my relationship with god a private matter.".
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Rattigan350
Tell her to define spirituality.
" if you left my relationship with God a private matter."
Where does this whole idea of a relationship with God come from? Sure Jesus is supposed to bridge the gap, the division, between Jehovah
and sinful humans, so humans can have a relationship with Jehovah where they could not before. But that is the theological principle of the atonement, not a 'you must do' thing.
"(I haven't hung out with a single JW friend in months, possibly a year or more"
Tell her you don't have time for hanging around people. More important things like career and making money.
But avoid doing what Island Man said and bringing up the False prophet and Pedophile issues. Don't make it an 'attack the Watchtower' issue, make it a 'It's my life and I want to take it back and live it' issue.
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Does anyone know the curent understanding on Chess for JWs?
by BU2B ini seem to remember chess was frowned upon by some jws.
is this like the oral/anal sex policy?
just ignore it and hope it goes away...
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Rattigan350
There is no understanding on Chess. Just because the Awake had an article on something, does not make it an understanding. I mean, for real? Do people follow what is written on everything? I've never been one to care what the Awake said.
And because it has war strategies, does it make it bad? The bad part of war is that it destroys properties and civilians. Chess does not have those.