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  Notre Dame Cathedral on fire...

  by mikeflood in

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  kind sad watch such historic building on flames.

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  i hope it will restored......

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  They said on the news that the French government is going to restore it. I really hope they do, because it will be a slap in the face of whoever took glee in this.
  
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  Funny question for the DFd :D

  by nowawake14 in

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  did you go to a random kingdom hall where they didnt know you while being dfd and talked to the people anyway?.

  😃😃.

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  Not quite the same, but my husband did that while he was under reproof. He went to a different congregation, that didn't know about the situation, and deliberately broke all the rules on the things they told him that he was not allowed to do.
  
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  What woke you up?

  by HappyBlessedFree in

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  i’m fairly new so i don’t know everyone’s backstory.

  how did you realize the organization was false?.

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  To make more sense of what woke me up, I'll give you a very brief back story. I had a sister a year older than me that passed away when she was five and a half years of age, she passed away in April 1973. Before her death mom hated the JWs with a passion. She was familiar with them because she has a cousin who is one. Anyways using my mother's grief as an opportunity, her cousin informed her of the 1975 lie, that being that in the fall of 1975 God would usher in his system of things and put an end to this old system of things. Also, and more importantly, she would be reunited with her baby girl that had passed away, because the dead would be resurrected. But the catch was that only baptized JWs and their minor children would survive the big A.

  Going to the meetings as a kid, and even well into my teens I would suffer horrible nightmares, and they were always the same two dreams. At the time I couldn't figure out what would cause those dreams, and for the longest time I could never figure out why. The elders and my mother's explanation was that Satin was attacking me in my sleep, thus the reason for the nightmares. These were so bad that even when I closed my eyes (such as during a prayer) I would have flashes of these horrible scenes in my nightmares. They revolved around death.

  Now to the part that work me up were actually two stages, and they both involved my eldest son. He was 5 years of age when one night he woke up screaming from a horrible nightmare. At first, he didn't want to tell me about it, but I told him that if he talked about it, it would help forget about it. When he told me about his dream, I was in utter shock, because word for word it was the exact dream that I suffered as a child.

  Then a couple of months after that my son became gravely ill, so I rushed him to the ER, at first they thought he would require surgery. For the next eight hours, they wanted to observe him, and they admitted him to the hospital, and he spent a week there. So for a few hours, I was in full panic mode. I attempted to call up my local body of elders, but could never reach them, instead I talked to the wife of one of those elders, whom I thought was my friend. After telling her what was going on, her only reply was, "What do you EXPECT me to do about it?" When I heard the tone in her voice, I told her nothing and hung up the phone. I told my mother what was going on, she said she couldn't make it down (we lived about 2 hours away). Even though I later learned that she came right through my town twice when she went to visit my sister who lived 3 hours away. She didn't even bother stopping in to see us on either way through my town.

  Fortunately, my son didn't need surgery, but for the next month, we had to keep him at home so he could get better and not come into any viral issues like someone's cold or any number of other issues. He did make a full recovery. Not once did anyone from my congregation came by or call to see how we were doing. The last meeting I attended, none one bothered to ask how we were doing, but rather that I better make sure I make it to the upcoming district convention. Something that was said to me, caused something to click in my head.

  Shortly after that, I started my research on the Watchtower. I discovered many things, such as the many failed date settings, how they take the scriptures out of context, and many other things. I also figured out why I was plagued with nightmares, and that my son had the exact same dream, and it was for sure not Satin who was causing them. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, just look through all the pictures in their literature dealing with death and destruction. When it finally dawned on me that the "truth" was not the truth, I saw nothing but red, I was so pissed off, that I immediately threw away all my Watchtower literature, and wroke my dissociation letter. I did wait a couple of months before I sent it in because I didn't want to do that under the emotional state that I was in, after all once that decision was made known by the Watchtower, there was no going back.
  
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  If shunning were no longer a JW policy, how many would leave the Org?

  by HiddenPimo in

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  additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.. (e.g.

  csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).

  would those leaving be higher?.

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  I feel that even if the Watchtower ceased today, and the JWs were no longer a religion, a large number of them would still shun their fellow humans. I've seen this with former witnesses who actually was shunning other former JWs.
  
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  Why do some JWs love seeing others get disfellowshipped?

  by Tameria2001 in

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  i'm not sure how many in the organization is like this, but there some jws who love seeing others get disfellowshipped, and my father-in-law is one of those.

  he became a jw because he loved the idea of being the head of the household, and lording it over his family.

  as a jw he is very hypocritical, my husband would tell stories of how they would celebrate christmas until his mother-in-law called him on it.

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  I'm not sure how many in the organization is like this, but there some JWs who love seeing others get disfellowshipped, and my father-in-law is one of those. He became a JW because he loved the idea of being the head of the household, and lording it over his family. As a JW he is very hypocritical, my husband would tell stories of how they would celebrate Christmas until his mother-in-law called him on it. She was not a JW, but a witch, and I don't mean that in a bad term, but an actual witch. He nearly lost his children due to abuse, he would take cigarettes and put them out on my husband's back (when he was a baby). Now mind you he did not smoke, he just bought them to do this horrible deed. That all stopped when the same woman put a gun in his mouth and told him if he laid another finger on her grandson, she would pull the trigger, and you did not mess with this woman. To this day my husband still has the scars to prove it, but I learned this through his aunts. Eventually, my husband's grandmother paid for her grandson to learn martial arts so he could defend himself from his father.

  When my husband was around 4 his dad became a JW, and eventually, he became an elder. When this man was a ministerial servant, my husband was around 16 when this happened. His father allowed a fellow witness, a brother, who was having some finical difficulties move in with him and his family. While he was not around, this "brother" would make advances to my mother-in-law. She informed her husband that he needed to get that "brother" out of the house, but he flat out refused. Eventually, the man worked his charms on her, and they kissed, and he did touch her chest. At that moment something clicked, and she made him stop. She told her husband about it, and that she was deeply sorry for what had happened. One other thing, she only had this moment of weakness because her mother was recently murdered by her father. He shot her multiple times, right in front of her sister, and a couple of months after that her younger brother died from brain cancer.
  

  My husband said his dad called up the elders and informed them what had happened, and he actually pushed for his wife to be disfellowshipped. Then after that, my husband told me that they moved into a congregation (in the same town) that was very snooty. It was pure hell on his mother and his siblings. His mother was reinstated one year later, personally, if it were me I would have told him to F off.

  Now fast forward 12 years later, my husband has a moment of weakness that would normally be a disfellowshipping matter. Like his mother, he came clean about it with me. I was not sure how to deal with the situation and thought that the elders would help us through this issue. You all know that's what they tell everyone, and I was gullible enough at the time to believe that crap. So before going to the elders my husband and I talked about it, and we went to see them together. Before all this, I had talked to my mother, but that was a huge mistake because that was when I learned how big of gossip she is, and because of this my father-in-law found out. Now mind you, neither of these people live in the same circuit as us.

  The judicial committee talked to me about this, and since no one else in the congregation knew of the matter, and that my husband came clean right way, and I was willing to forgive him, they decided on a private reproof. As a result, two things also happened, my mother's local body of elders (in a different state) told her that if she did not stop she would find herself getting disfellowshipped. And my husband father, who was an elder by now, was pushing hard to have his son disfellowshipped. Our local body of elders told him that it was none of his concern and that he did not stop, he too would find himself in the hot seat as well. They were involved in my husband's mother's case.

  Why do some JWs love seeing others get disfellowshipped?
  
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  How do you talk about your adult children, who is getting ready to royally screw up things

  by Tameria2001 in

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  i have two sons, both in their 20's.

  the youngest son has it all figured out, and he is doing great, but my older son (2 years older than his brother) well that is a totally different story.. my eldest has always wanted to do things the hard way, and he has always been this way.

  my husband and i done our best to guide them when they were younger, but we ultimately let them make their own decision in the matter, whatever ever it might have been.

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  I have two sons, both in their 20's. The youngest son has it all figured out, and he is doing great, but my older son (2 years older than his brother) well that is a totally different story.

  My eldest has always wanted to do things the hard way, and he has always been this way. My husband and I done our best to guide them when they were younger, but we ultimately let them make their own decision in the matter, whatever ever it might have been. When it came to romance we pretty much stayed out of it, unless he came to us for advice, but the end decision was his own.

  But his wife has come to us about some serious issues that are going on between the two of them. I won't go into the details of the matter, but it is getting so bad that she is seriously thinking about divorcing him. They also have a six-month-old son. I asked her if she thought about going to a marriage counselor. She has asked him about this, but he told her that he will flat out refuse to talk to a stranger. She did say that he talked to his best friend about some private matters, and his friend told him that he was in the wrong, and he needed to apologize to his wife about it. He has never apologized to her about anything. I'm not sure where he got that from because we did not raise him up to be like this.

  I'm not sure if there is anything that his father or I can say to him to get his head out of his @$$, but I would hate for him to destroy his family. At this point in time, his wife is still willing to work things out, but her husband needs to stop doing what he is doing. Any suggestions on what we can say to our son, that will at least get him to think about what he is doing.
  
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  How have so many been fooled into thinking and believing it’s acceptable for a child to make a vow to serve Jehovah till the day they die?

  by BourneIdentity in

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  when ….. you need to be 15 to obtain your drivers permit.

  you need to be 16 to obtain your drivers license.

  you need to be 17 to watch a r rated movie (alone without a parent).

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  I'm not exactly sure of the wording, but no one under the age of 18 can be bound to a legal agreement or something like that.
  
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  "ToMo3's liquor purchase video actually PROVES Jehovah's direction!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  ok, so i played the game of putting on my jw apologetic cap for a moment, and thought of how a devout jw could rationalize this whole liquor buying situation.. they could say:.

  "this actually proves that jehovah is guiding his organization!!

  he was bringing this activity of tomo3 to light, and it would also prove to be a loyalty test for all jws, to see if they would be stumbled right out of the truth!".

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  Might be the case, but then one could turn around and use the scripture at Luke 17:2 It would be more advantageous for him if a millstone were hung from his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to stumble one of these little ones.

  
  
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  Suicide; and Jehovahs Witnesses

  by zeb in

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  as one who has been personally affected by suicide i read just now of a posting here today the tragic note being "my bridesmaid hanged herself" which we gather she had been shunned... well over the past many months we have seen a library of information, which continues to grow, on the sex abuse saga and most recently the revelations with a myriad of escape clauses a new 'policy' pulled like teeth from the wt on that matter.

  this piece of prose is made available to any jw who requests it so the wt says.

  it is well revealed out of the carc that the % of abuse in the wt world is higher than outside it.. this brings me to the matter of suicide.. .

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  A few years back I knew a couple of active JWs who committed suicide, and it was a real shock when the news made it way around. The first was in a small town called Gas, Kansas, I don't recall the exact year but it was before I was married, so the very early 1990s. I had briefly met an elder from that congregation when I went to help build their kingdom hall, at the time I was a member of the Kansas Electrical Crew. I don't remember his name anymore. He seemed like a good fellow, good-natured, but then again I really didn't know him other than those four days I was there. Then a short time later, while he was at work, four men broke into his home and beat his wife to death (I had heard it was baseball bats.) By the time he returned home his wife was dead, and the criminals were gone. There were quite a few rumors floating around, including that he was behind her murder. He was eventually cleared of all charges and released. I don't know if he had made it to her funeral or not, but I was told he wasn't able to make it to her funeral. The first opportunity he was able he went out to her grave and by using a gun killed himself.

  The second was someone that my husband knew very well, in Joplin Missouri. He was married and had two young school-age children. He waited till his wife and children left then hung himself in their home. It was his wife who discovered his body. My husband said that he was dealing with depression. My husband also told me that this person's father had also killed himself years before. I got the impression that his father was a JW as well because my husband said that family was something like the fourth generation witnesses.

  When I was 16, I nearly took my own life, because of dealing with years of abuse, it just took me a while to work up the nerve to try it. I didn't like the idea of hurting myself or screwing up and permanently maiming myself so I decided to go the route of overdosing on pills. It was my baby sister who found me, and she alerted our parents. I was rushed to the ER and had my stomach pumped. Afterward, they did a complete workup on my blood to see if there was anything else going on, and there was. To make a long story short, attempting and failing at suicide actually saved my life. They had found that I was totally depleted potassium, and it was a matter of days before that would have killed me.

  I took all this as a learning lesson, and with my knowledge, I actually prevented two suicides because I had recognized from my own pain and the signs they had given off. The first was a friend in school, she was not a JW, but was going through her own issues. And the second was my husband, and that was a very trying time because he wanted to wait until I left to do something before ending his life. There was a couple of times I had to take care of a few errands, but I didn't leave him alone. I had to have someone watch over him, and he was trying his best to get the other person to leave. My husband's issues at the time were temporary, and he sees that now, and he is very grateful that I cared enough and knew what to look out for. A good portion of his problem at the time was his parents, and siblings - all JWs who made him feel like he was a worthless piece of cr@p, and that was before we left the Watchtower. I am fairly sure that if we had stayed in that cult, he would have eventually found a way to end his life. I honestly feel that leaving the JWs saved my husband life, and made him want to enjoy the things that life has to offers, such as his children and me.
  
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  Dating question from a bible student

  by Biblestudent1 in

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  i have done bible study for about four months now.

  the married couple who do it with me are lovely.

  i have attended meetings for about two months.

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  Tameria2001

  Sorry, I didn't know they baited 6-year-olds to take the dunk. The youngest knew was 8.