yes i was there.. when we were all told.. 1975 is the time.
i was new to the jw thing but i knew then "that no man knoweth the day nor the hour....".. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5647286362177536/1975-on.
I knew JW hierarchy were not being honest about the 1975 prediction ,but did I leave then ? no , I didnt leave till about 1993 .
When you have allowed yourself to be indoctrinated for so long ? It`s hard to break free.
I didn`t know back then that this was the second time the JW`s had said 6000 years of human existance had lived on Earth ,there was a much earlier one .
Off hand i can`t remember when .
i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.
how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.
i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.
The Overlapping Generation teaching , is nothing more than an excuse to try to explain away the failed expectation beleif that was taught for decades ,that the generation that saw events in 1914 would not pass away in death before the new System had arrived.
And of course they all did .
matthew 24:15.
15 “therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment),.
luke 21:24 *(this scripture is incorrectly referenced to daniel 4:25. correct would be to revelation 11:2 nwt).
Sardis , It`s O k to quote scripture after scripture if that makes you feel good ,but it is meaningless unless you have to give those scriptures your interpretation to what they mean and their fulfillment.
Remember however, those scriptures were written 2000 years ago ,and the scriptures never identify what time period they were ever to be applied to
.If any.
By the way ,Sardis welcome to the forum ,i hope you stick around ,some very interesting discussions take place on this forum.
Take care.
wishing all of you a happy and prosperous new year.
my wish is for everyone to find happiness.
for those of you who are still having to keep up appearances (pimo's) because of family who are still in, my wish for you is anything that will open the eyes of your family members and finally be set free.. tonight here in minnesota, happydad will be celebrating with a bloody mary, right here at home in my sweats.
Happy New Year everybody and have a prosperous & healthy one at that.
the watchtower—study edition | march 2020. study article 13. love one another intensely.
if we have intense “love for the whole association of brothers,” we will avoid being partial.
7 jesus urged us to keep treating others the way we want to be treated.
So long as they remain a Jehovah`s Witness ,once they leave ? They are then a part of Satan`s world and not worthy of our consideration .They have made their choice.
Love is conditional among Jehovah`s Witnesses.
You are either with us or against us .it`s Your choice.
this wt doctrine includes the wrathful mass execution of individual children, babies and disabled belonging to the billions of non-jws... extremist?
"during the war of armageddon, jehovah will execute people, not in a cold, clinical manner, but in a “great rage.” (read ezekiel 38:18.
) he will direct the explosive force of his anger, not against one army or one nation, but against countless individuals living across the globe.
Doesn`t that mean that the Bible can mean anything to anybody ? Whatever they WANT to believe ? Depending on how you interpret those Scriptures ?
And isn`t that why we have over 40,000 different Christian sects in Christendom ? Today in 2021?
i have learn a lot about the religion and congregations.
when i was active visiting meetings, i was there for the spiritual food.
i actually thought everyone else was there for same reason ;-) i have learn there's a great variation among jws.
I learnt that I wasn't the only JW that knew that WT have rewritten their own history to make themselves look good, to help cover failed teachings while at the same time promoting their updated version of their history.
"New light" is how they justify their failed prophecy`s , "Evident Realities" that never get realized , False dates for Armageddon , 1914-18 ,1975 ,2000 , however the re-writing of their own history to show them in a good light was the straw that broke the camels back.
i think the first thing to consider is that it takes a while for humans to wake up to the truth.
this is not just a jw thing.
around 1600 ad, galileo challenged the catholic church's long held view that the earth was the center of our universe.
According to the graph slim has shown, for the past 40 years the Jehovah`s Witnesses have grown in number despite the internet and the growing number of sites like this one .
How is this possible ? With all of the flip-flops ,evident realities not realized ,false predictions ,dates , about The big "A" happening around 1975 ,then before the end of the 20th Century ,not to mention those previous predictions early in the 20th Century. ?
Where is this growth coming from ?
cold, dark.
isolation on top of it this year.
i am sick of sappy xmas music and tv shows.. i always reflect on what religion has done to my family.
Just my 2 cents worth.:
The religion has done a great job in indoctrinating you to dwell on the negatives in life.
What you need to do is hone in on the positives in life ,whatever they may be.
Do you have friends associates that are not JW`s , if not why not ? They can be good caring people.
Do you have fellowship with people in a club or association with people in some interest group ,hobby ,gardening , or some other activity you are interested in ?
Their is really no excuse or little excuse to be alone or feel alone ,maybe YOU just have to take the initiative.
Take care.
well don't know if this page has tread for new years predictions or with date it starts.
so might as well start now.
my new year's prediction for watchtower would be a big big sell out of kingdom hall's.
Did they even do quick builds anymore prior to the pandemic ?
This Covid 19 and its variants , business is going to with us for many years to come .i`m with those that believe they will sell off KH`s left right and centre to generate more quick money .
And I do see them going to be a Tele- Evangelist religion and keeping big Assembly Halls in certain strategic locations around the country`s they operate in,because they are big money makers.
With the video studio ? ,that can also be a big money spinner with the right marketing.
As people are saying they will not ever go back to what the religion was before .
