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  Which Steve Hassan book?

  by Tornintwo in

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  can anyone recommend which steve hassan book to read, i see there are 3.. my mind is all over the place during this process of finally acknowledging and researching my doubts, ive been recommended his books on here, but which one is best?.

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  Londo111

  I really enjoyed Combatting Cult Mind Control.
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  Where is Reinhard Lengtat?

  by jst2laws in

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  sorry for the posting error below.. my wife is reading crisis of conscience now.

  this is good news because i know i will have someone to talk to when im caught and dfd.

  but in her reading she is recognizing most of the names ( we were there at bethel during the 70s as a married couple) and asked what happened to reinhard lengtat?

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  Londo111

  He is a person who guards his privacy very much. I'm sure this thread is alarming to him as well as the recent inquiry. I believe we should leave this conversation here.
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  What is true love?

  by hoser in

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  i just watched the video what is true love.

  first of all it is painfully long.

  secondly there is an uncanny resemblance with megan(the one who married out of the truth) to the girl in the jeremiah book who married out of the truth.

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  Londo111

  Nothing wrong with being nerdy...
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  I left the troof behind in 2006. What have I missed?

  by Jehovah lol in

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  i'm up to date with what the wt taught in 2006 but have no idea what has changed since.. do tell..

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  Londo111

  No more district overseers.

  Emphasis on the new online TV channel.

  Cart witnessing.

  No more book studies (book study called Bible Study and rolled up with the TMS and Service Meeting).

  Public Watchtower and Awake are half the pages they used to be.

  Everything is about JW.ORG and some JWs wear all sorts of trinkets advertising it.
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  607 BC Discussion - JW Podcast

  by God_Delusion in

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  hi guys & gals,.

  we finally get to tackle the 607 bc debate in our last show of the season.. please leave any comments here and let us know if you agree or disagree with any of the points we brought up about 607 bc.. http://www.jwpodcast.org/2015/05/24/s01e14-607-bc/.

  love,jaymes.

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  Londo111

  There's a debate? :)
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

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  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  Londo111

  It’s complicated.
  

  Ultimately, what woke me up was digging into the October and November 2011 articles on 607 BC. It was a litmus test. After all, no 607, then no 1914. No 1914, no 1919. No 1919, the Watchtower did not represent a “faithful slave” and were not appointed by God.

  If 607 were true, I would've go back heart and soul. But not only did I find it wasn’t true, I found the articles deceptive. It’s one thing to be mistaken, another thing to practice deception. And that was just one of many issues where Watchtower doctrine was not truth. The entire theology was a sham.
  

  Of course, there were heartbreaks that led up to the litmus test. I could have gotten over them if I had found it was the truth.
  
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  Book Burning and other burning of materials done by JW. Any experiences Please post

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  as a very young child i have memories of several book burnings done by jw families.

  it wasn't something arranged by the congregation, but elders did participate in it.

  it was actually scary for me as a child of only about 8 years old.

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  My father burned an NIV Bible a Pentecostal schoolmate gave me. Pentecostals were automatically suspect as carrying demons.

  Likely not the only burning in my youth, but the one that comes readily to mind.
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  my intro to the JW world

  by rebelfighter in

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  someone suggested that i should introduce myself and how i got here.

  this has been a crash course in the jw world.

  i got an email that said "good bye, have a nice life".

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  Londo111

  Rebelfighter:

  Thank you for joining this forum. It is always good to see an outsider's perspective.
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  many newly baptised getting reproved and df'd!

  by nowwhat? in

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  parents are turning their children in for such offences as stealing from the cookie jar, not cleaning their room and worst of all, not eating their vegetables!

  many parents are writing the org.

  if they should shun their 8 year old.

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  Londo111

  A few years before I was baptized, I lied to my father (as typically children will do from time to time). My father went to the PO about it. But the PO had enough sense to shrug it off.
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  HELP - A Guide to Fade

  by cognitivedizzy in

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  hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.

  status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.

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  Londo111

  It tempting to go out with a bang, but usually people seem to regret their course in the long run and wish they had faded. Of course, since your wife is not awake, the following might not be an option for you.

  If possible:

  (1) move to another congregation, preferably in a neighboring circuit. The fewer people there that know you, the better. The busier the congregation, the better.

  (2) Attend the new congregation once a week until your records arrive. Make few acquaintances, be as forgettable as possible. Take your seat a few minutes before the song, leave as soon as Amen is said.

  (3) When your records arrive, quit attending…or taper off attendance.

  (4) Screen your calls. If an elder calls to check on you, do not answer. Since you live outside their territory, it is unlikely they will visit. But always look through the peephole just in case. Don’t sign for certified mail if it comes from them.