A few years before I left, I became a low hour publisher. Field service was getting harder and harder for me in terms of anxiety. The elders took away “microphone privileges” to “encourage” me to pick up my hours. At the time, I found it more discouraging and did not help my anxiety or hours.
Londo111
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"Privileges"
by minimus inwithin the organization, jehovah's witnesses know that they must be dutiful and set an example for "worldly ones" as well as for their own brotherhood.
if a witness fails in setting the proper example, they may lose some 'privileges"..... what privileges did you look to have and what privileges did you lose?
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What was the craziest sight you brothers seen running mikes ?
by Chook ineg ,babies jump where they shouldn't, those hairy old sisters.....
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Londo111
A fellow mike-carrier tripped over a big bookbag that was in the aisle.
Another time, in a congregation with pole mikes, I accidentally hit a lady in the mouth and got lipstick on them mike.
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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.
by jwfacts inthere seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.
do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.
some of the methods include:.
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Londo111
In 1990, when visiting Bethel, a whole crowd of apostates were in front protesting, holding up signs about Jesus being their mediator too, ect… None of that helped, it frightened me. Then later I saw Mr. Coffee, which cemented into my head what apostates were.
A person in my congregation in the late 90’s who I befriended said things that in retrospect were seeds to try to help me wake up. For instance, he mentioned about early JWs teaching that Jehovah lived around a star. I considered that hogwash.
Later, I discovered he looked at both a video of Ray Franz and gay porn on my computer. Therefore, I with another friend decided to approach him first to report himself to the elders. Poor guy was shaking like a leaf. I don’t think we ever pursued matters to the point of reporting him. Needless to say, the little things he said didn’t help me think, because he didn’t really present documented proof.
Over the years I accidently stumbled upon crazy looking websites with lots of ranting, like Danny Hazzard or Rick Fearon, and they came across exactly like the angry, bitter apostates Watchtower talked about. That didn’t help me.
I remember a forum I accidently stumbled across with post from the “Liberal Elder”, and a post where a woman said she was a pioneer and just discovered 607 BC was wrong. I considered these places traps. I didn’t believe for a moment that the poster was a pioneer, but rather an apostate pretending to be one.
Years later, when I first started to research 607 BC as a litmus test, looking for neutral sources, I did inevitably come across “apostate” sites, like this one or JWfacts. However, I basically assumed that I would have to weed through the lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations, with a kernel of truth here and there. However, over many months, I began to realize that sites like JWfacts were in fact 100% factual, whereas Watchtower were the ones being deceitful.
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Watchtower Library Won't Run
by sfbayarea ini have 4 computers that are all running windows 10 version 1703.. 1. laptop that came with windows 10 was updated to version 1703 - watchtower library runs fine.
2. laptop that came with windows 8 was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library runs fine.
3. laptop that came with windows 7 64 home was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library does not run.
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Londo111
Modern computers know how to reject garbage, screen for viruses, ect...
Looks like all your machines are operating as they should.
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Window Cleaners?
by nicolaou inlike a lot of others here, i gave higher education a miss when i left school (1980).
under the encouragement of the society i pioneered for three years instead!.
now i clean windows for a living.
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Londo111
In my area, JWs become painters.
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The org and going beyond what is written
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. my father just claimed that the good thing about being a witness was how they just let the bible interpret itself.
now i know the irony in this statement, but i dont know what to show him that he just cant discard with some ignorant excuse.
any ideas?
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Londo111
Going beyond what it written...where would we start?
Pioneering.
Turning in field service time.
Literature placement.
Ect, ect...
Heck, even the words Governing Body and Organization is nowhere to be found in the Bible.
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1925 versus 1975
by Sour Grapes inin the early 1970's i was an elder who was convinced by the other elders in the congregation that armageddon was coming by the end of 1975. at that time, as an elder, i knew that in the early 1920's the witnesses thought that in 1925 christendom would be destroyed and the faithful men of old, abraham, isaac, noah, etc., would be resurrected to earth.
i knew those were failed prophecies yet it did not bother me.
as i ponder why it didn't shake my faith, i must have given the borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter.. i am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies.
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It was the failed 1925 date that had Judge Rutherford say the truest words he had ever uttered in his life, "I made an ass of myself."
Indeed.
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last convention before global attack on witnesses
by Phoebe inso it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.
'you have to go to the convention.
bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.
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Londo111
Yes, every year they imply that that convention or memorial may be the last one...
Every convention hits the drum of something like "we are in the last days of the last days", "the end is imminent", ect... and it has been so for over a hundred years.
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Best Website in the world - JWORG
by TheWonderofYou injw believe that jworg is the best website and most translated in the world.. i heard this today in streetservice.
there was already a thread about this subject.
anybody can link it?.
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Londo111
If they had the Truth, the website could certainly be more robust. They could go into depth, show their research, full quotes, ect...
One could make the excuse that the printed magazines don't have enough room. But this need not apply to the website.
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
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Londo111
Most JWs will watch and forget. The year 1975 isn't even mentioned, so some, especially the public, Bible studies, young JWs might not even be aware what they are talking about. Perhaps it was just some crazy people in that man's congregation or circuit for all they know, not an organizational problem.
Those who are vaguely aware of 1975 will simply repeat the line Watchtower gives them. Some individuals ran ahead, were seeking a date, ect...