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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

truth_b_known

Does is feel like arguing over whether we should say Woden or Odin, Zeus or Jupiter?

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You Know You're A Jehovah's Witness When...

by pale.emperor in

you know you're a jehovah's witness when.... being offered a scholarship to a good university is considered a bad thing.. when you see a house you like you claim it for after your god kills the owner.. you recieve spiritual guidence from a bus driver and a window washer.. you're engaged to a person you only met 3 months ago.. your widowed mother is marrying a man she met at the convention who she's known for 2 weeks.. there's jehovah's witnesses meeting in your house on a saturday morning to talk about going out knocking on doors on a saturday morning.. a lie in on a weekend happens about twice a year.. you dont talk to your own parents/children because they have a different opinion about a magazine.. you're not quite sure what you're supposed to believe anymore.. when someone criticizes your a magazine you feel like you're being attacked.. your 3yo son owns a suit.. if you're not married by the age of 30 you're considered to be gay or something wrong with you.. (for girls) if you havent married the first or second person you've dated you're considered promiscuous or something wrong with you.. you get your scientific knowledge from a magazine written by people who've never been to college and have never actually read the source they claim to be citing.. you get excited if there's a storm or natural disaster.. you get excited when there's a terrorist attack.. you get excited when there's a pandemic.. your version of tinder is the lunch break at a convention.. your girlfriend dresses like her grandmother.. your grandparents, despite being in the same religion as you, died believing totally a different belief system..

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Your grandparents, despite being in the same religion as you, died believing totally a different belief system.

Wow! Powerful statement indeed.

When you religious leaders flip-flop multiple times, in writing, on the same topic and you accept it as God making the lighter brighter and brighter...

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Another example of. Brotherly love you can only find in jehovahs organization

by nowwhat? in

so my 88 mil died and was the epitome of a faithful sister.

my wife and her sister are members of the congregation for 40+ years.

to be fair it was short notice but we had the showing and visitation and only about 12 out of 120 of the congregation showed up and only 1 elder!

truth_b_known

I'm sorry to hear of your family's loss. Peace be with you all.

I wonder if your MIL knew that only 12 people from the congregation would show to her funeral, and only 1 elder, if she would still believe that love was an identifying mark of the one, true religion.

I know my parents do not have many years ahead of them. I already feel sad about my father's future funeral talk. I wonder if the elder giving the talk will acknowledge my father believes he is one of the annointed and will mention my father's heavenly hope or will just give the same canned outline talk. Not to mention my father had a rather extraordinary life before he became a Witness. I wonder if they will mention any of it.

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

truth_b_known

In a nutshell; the name "Jehovah" came into being roughly 1,000 years after Constantine I ordered the Bible be made. It is a made up name from about the 12th or 13th century that took the tetragrammaton (YHWH) and combined the vowel structure of the word Adonai ("Lord"). The Latinized name was translated to German and then German to English which gives us the final man-made product - Jehovah.

Pretty much all the names in the Bible have been changed from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to German to English. Because certain sounds do not exist in certain languages there have been some noticeable changes to names. That's how we get the English Jesus because there is no Y sound in Greek.

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Worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.

by smiddy3 in

does anybody know what this message will contain ?

is it designed to provoke a response that will bring persecution on the religion ?

or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.. or is it going to suggest to the government officials that this mob could very well be the next jonestown /wacol incident and we need to act now.

truth_b_known

From my personal experience -

1. Elected officials have staff that read and sort their mail for them.

2. Elected officials listen to voters.

3. Elected officials listen to persons/groups who contribute to election campaigns.

A lot of paper, envelopes, postage, and time will be wasted.

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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses “Witness” Any More?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i see no more preaching.

no more door knocking.

no more car groups.

truth_b_known

I believe the almighty preaching work that was the centerpiece of the Watchtower cult has been in steady decline for years, but that the response to COVID-19 is the death knell. I grew up as a Witness through the 80s and 90s. I left in the 2000s when I was in my 30s and was completely out in 2010. I remember during the time that I was PIMI the door-to-door ministry was the central practice of being a Witness. Go to the 5 weekly meetings and, at a minimum, spend 4 hours knocking on doors on Saturday. To do otherwise was heresy.

Then the Governing Body decided to be the Popes of Warwick. Witnesses were ordered to stop doing research. The Watchtower will tell them what they need to know. That created a problem. How do you competently carry out the door-to-door ministry while being ignorant of the Bible and your own dogmas? Easy - enter JW.Org and the Youtube-esque Witnessing work.

Like the old colporteurs of the Russell days, Witnesses exchanged the portable phonograph for the iPad and the Studies in the Scriptures for the simplified issues of the Watchtower. Door-to-door Witnessing became robotic. Even trained chimpanzees could carry out the work. There was no more preaching and teaching. It's all an advertisement for a website.

Then COVID-19 hit. I never thought I would see the day when the Governing Body would tell their organization to stop participating in the public ministry. I could see them saying don't go door-to-door. The in-person, face-to-face ministry was the central practice of being a Witness. Only those with extreme physical restrictions were told to do phone Witnessing or letter writing.

How many times were we guilted and shamed with stories of Witnesses in the former Soviet Union who risked their very lives to informally Witness to a co-worker, someone on public transportation, or on the street corner? Yes, actually risk public execution for such a thing. Now, it's stay home and tune in to JW.Org because of a virus that you may or may not get and if you do it probably won't kill you unless you already have an underlying illness or you're old.

The Governing Body may tell Witnesses that it's alright to go back to carrying on in the public ministry sometime next year, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a significant number of Witnesses claim they would be unnecessarily risking their lives to do so. I see the fear or perceived fear of communicable disease being the new crutch Witnesses use to excuse themselves from attending meetings and field service.

Witnesses are obsessed with being text book doctors and holistic healing. The love self-diagnosing themselves with diseases both real and make believe. They are huge supporters of faux-medicine such as essential oils and other "natural remedies".

I think the future of being a Jehovah's Witness is sitting on the living room couch with a mask on while watching JW.Org saying "I'm a Witness," like Ralph from The Simpsons.

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1914 Dropped

by pale.emperor in

so i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.

the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?

does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.

truth_b_known

Watchtower 2000, January 1st, pg.8, par.10
"True to Bible prophecy, this world’s “conclusion” began in 1914 and was marked by the outbreak of the first world war. (Matthew 24:3, 7) There is strong evidence that Satan and his demonic hordes were cast out of heaven following that year."

"Strong evidence?" Notice the word "strong," which is an adjective to describe the evidence. If it were strong why do only Jehovah's Witnesses believe this?

If I said that I found strong evidence of intelligent alien life that had come to Earth what type of evidence would you expect that I had found? Video or photographic evidence? DNA or tissue samples? Alien technology? Alien alloys from space craft?

I think the whole conversation is just an exercise in the Watchtower moving the goal posts again to support their conspiracy theory. It's all speculation and conjecture. There is no evidence.

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Have You Changed Your Viewing Habits Regarding Sports and Entertainment?

by minimus in

jw
friends

do you still avidly view sports and entertainment?

have you been affected by athletes views on racism, the national anthem, white peoples vs. black?

same question for those in the entertainment industry.

truth_b_known

Athletics is good for the body. Sports is an opium for the masses. I like drinking tea. I do not get joy from watching others drink tea.

COVID-19 has shown just how much Western civilization has declined by our addiction to entertainment. Our economies are in the tank because we cannot go to restaurants, bars, movie theaters, concerts, and sporting events.

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Upcoming Neutrality Talk Oct 26, 2020

by Listener in

thanks petra and atlantis for providing the latest announcements from the watchtower.. they are telling congregations to replace the 15 minute local needs talk in the midweek meeting of october 26th with a talk on neutrality.

i am not sure if this is due to there being a usa election on tues 3rd, november or because of their worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.

it does sound like it is due to the usa election due to comments about propaganda and political promises.

truth_b_known

Dear Elected Government Official:

I don't believe in supporting the government. I don't donate to political campaign funds. I don't vote. I am not even registered to vote. In spite of all this, please listen to my plea for supporting my cause.

Sincerely,

No Part of your World

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UGHHHHH Wife wants to pioneer. Our future together doesn’t look promising

by goingthruthemotions in

ughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.

our future together doesn't look promising .

i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.

truth_b_known

I would recommend having a calm, rational conversation with your wife.I would start by reading her Luke 14:28-32.

28 For example, who of you wanting to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it? 29 Otherwise, he might lay its foundation but not be able to finish it, and all the onlookers would start to ridicule him, 30 saying: ‘This man started to build but was not able to finish.’ 31 Or what king marching out against another king in war does not first sit down and take counsel whether he is able with 10,000 troops to stand up to the one who comes against him with 20,000? 32 If, in fact, he cannot do so, then while that one is yet far away, he sends out a body of ambassadors and sues for peace.

I would sit down at the dining table with pencil and paper. Chart a typical week Sunday through Saturday. Figure out when everything required to run the household will be completed and when you will make time for each other to maintain your relationship.

As previous posters have mentioned that there are only so many hours in a day and so many days in a week. Be sure you make it clear that you love your wife and you are not willing to sacrifice your marriage so she can spend even more time in the ministry. Compliment your wife's zeal, but also remind her that Pioneering is not scripturally required to gain everlasting life.

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